Posted on 05/21/2004 2:54:58 PM PDT by Jean S
I mistook the post link containing harbingr's links for the message JR has posted about this year and campaigning..I can't find it right now.
Sitting home is a vote for hanoi john, just as a vote for nader is supposedly a vote for Dubya.
#150 contains Jim's thoughts on this site and this election(deport's post to harbingr to inform him)
Of course the Republicans campaigned agaist FDR but I strongly doubt that any of them were assaulting him for bringing us into a fictious war or for the literally hundreds of thousands of men who had already died by that time. I doubt it was a campaign issue in 1944.
And, BTW, the problem isn't that the Democrats are campaigning against the President, the problem is that much of the country seems to have lost the taste for war after only a few (relatively) people have died and after only a few (relatively) idiotic crimes committed by prison guards.
The guards who participated in the prison scandal are being and will continue to be prosecuted and many, many more soldiers will die; but the number pales in comparison to the number of deaths we will experience if we fail in Iraq.
The need for steadfastness is upon us. It is time for all Americans to stiffen up their backbone and not fall in the face of mounting pressure. 76,000....76,000
This is a political discussion site. You can't have debate and discussion unless you bring forth the issues and go through them. That debate and discussion cannot occur unless other options are brought forth. Yes, I realize this is a two party race. No, I do not desire a Kerry win. There are times when I don't see a difference. And regarding judges, with Republican Presidents we've lost more than we've won with regard to their appointments to the SC and district judges.
But there are many here who simply want to say "move on, nothing to see" when it comes to issues this President brings. I seem to remember that during the last administration. I remember seeing someone note one time that many of the most well known conservative commentators and writers would probably be banned from this site if they posted their commentaries on this site because they dated to be critical of the President in a "time of war". Rush, Hannity, Savage, Joe Farah, George Will and on and on, most likely banned. Isn't that sad.
But now we've become the superpower of the world and there are these pesky gnats in the sand called Iraqi militiamen that for some reason we seem to be unable to tame.
Sure, compared to the loss of life in the Battle of the Bulge, these losses pale in comparison. But we've been conditioned by the media with military complicity that we can just roll in and take over. Or we can surgically launch something from a boat 500 miles away and watch a city fall to our power. Now the war has taken a more personal approach. We aren't fighting a conventional military. We're fighting someone who was a friend 30 minutes ago.
The prision scandal is going to be more than just a handful of people. Now it appears that after strong denials, the wedding in fact may have been attacked. We've lost control. Maybe we did in WWII also, but the media and the military was complicit in a coverup. Or the media now has the ability and technology to get beyond the PR the military dishes out.
...I know you feel deeply...It's a big wide universe, there are many, many discussion forums and I know you will find one that fits your needs.
There are many sites I am sure better suited to satisfactorily discuss your points and share your questions with.
Obviously I and others here could not provide you with the debate, discussion and information you yearn for...Keep seeking!
It was nice talking to you...Happy Hunting!
.......................BUSH/CHENEY...04...................
FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR NATION, FOR THE SAKE OF THE WORLD
I would crawl through broken glass lying atop burning coals,covered over with razor wire,to vote for President Bush! :-)
I would rather lance an infected hemmorhoid with a plastic picnic fork than vote for Kerry!
Sure he is...I was at my grandson's birthday party on Saturday and one of his 23 y/o dimwit relatives (from the other side of the family) stated "It would be so cool to have a President that snowboards!" Unfortunately for us, these people do vote...that is why it is imperative that we support Bush!
I hear you! Sounds like something the other side of this family might say as well except for a few of them! My side -- Republican and Conservative -- same with my kids!
It was all I could do to hold my anger in! He then went on to whine about how he recently got turned down for disability. I wanted so badly to tell him that he just needs get off his fat arse and get a job, but I just rolled my eyes and walked off to keep the peace. He gets it honestly...his mother has had numerous Air Force boyfriends who fathered her 6 kids so she can get the benefits and forced child support. It is really disgusting!
Regardless of whether or not we are fighting pests or standing armies, the goal is to win... at whatever it is that we are trying to accomplish. Turning tail and running is not an option but seems to be what you are advocating (if not turning tail and running then... what, exactly?). When we get in these battles, we must show the Islamo-Fascists that we can take casualties. Tens of Thousands if need be in order to win this war. They are prepared to take as many casualties as need be to spread Fantatical Islam throughout the world. We need to be prepared to take as many casualties as we can to stop it. I'm not sure if we are prepared yet to do this.
You must have counted to 100 several times. When I was around the other side of the family counting to 10 didn't work so I would go higher not to really say what I thought. People like that really bug me!
One time his Mother started praising Ma Richards in our home in Texas and I let her have it -- last trip they made to visit. Been back to NY once in 14 years to visit and that does it for me. I don't do well visiting democRATs especially now!
I'm not advocating cut and run. I'm a tad concerned that we got in without having a clearer picture of what we were up against. And at some point in time IF we aren't making progress, then yes, we leave. Failure is not an option sometime means failure anyway. I've just gone through a business situation (employer) that went out with less than good market data, had unobtainable goals, and we failed miserably. Throughout the last few years, it was stressed failure is not an option. We, the company failed.
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