Posted on 05/21/2004 10:26:28 AM PDT by NJ Freeper
A Pizza Hut deliveryman who police say fatally shot a man on the city's east side Monday night says he acted in self-defense.
Ronald Honeycutt, 38, of Carmel, says he had just delivered a pizza at the Oaks Apartments around 11 p.m. Monday when a man approached him with a gun.
Honeycutt (pictured, right), who was near his delivery van and had his own gun, fired 15 times at the man, later identified as Jerome Brown, 20, of Indianapolis. Brown was taken to a hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
"The only thing I can do is protect myself, and if that means shooting somebody that intends to shoot you, so be it," Honeycutt told RTV6's Jack Rinehart Tuesday. "I'm sick of the crime and I'm sick of being victimized."
Honeycutt said that after the shooting, he picked up Brown's handgun and drove to a Pizza Hut, where sheriff's deputies took him into custody. Police questioned Honeycutt and then released him.
Pizza Hut, which has a policy forbidding deliverymen to carry weapons, fired Honeycutt soon after the shooting, Rinehart reported.
The county coroner's office Tuesday determined Brown died of multiple gunshot wounds.
Honeycutt said he used all the ammunition he had because Brown kept standing.
"The guy literally stood there the whole time with his arm up," Honeycutt said. "The whole time, I'm popping off rounds ... (and) the guy's still standing there after 15 rounds went off in him."
Honeycutt, who has a valid license to carry a firearm, said he planned to buy another handgun and go back to work with a different pizza business.
The Marion County prosecutor's office will review the case to determine whether Honeycutt acted in self-defense, Rinehart reported.
Every example I posted was widespread in "corporate America" until a few years ago. And it still goes on, although less blatant.
My point was simply that corporate "rights" don't trump over certain individual Rights, such as the Right to self defense.
I've seen similar sentiments posted on some of the gun forums.
It's very likely they have this info on you (and all of us), especially with the ongoing centralization of databases.
No way - really? You are so welcome! I love making people laugh. (Believe you me, you'd laugh even harder if you saw a picture of me today in that getup.)
A few years ago? You mean, 40 or so?
Way!
What is not mentioned in the article is the coroners report that Brown was so high on meth or crack that he would not have reacted to the initial half dozen gunshot wounds.
I don't think so.
She asked AFTER she had my ID in her possession. She didn't direct the question at my girlfriend at the time who was driving the car.
As far as exiting, the penatration figures don't mean exiting is automatic. I'm not saying the .40 is a bad load. Quite the contrary. But it isn't necessary as a well loaded nine will do the job just fine.
So, would you put .40SW "in between" 9mm and .45 ACP in terms of stopping power? That's my impression, also in terms of concealability.
Three shots with a 9 -- two to the chest, and one to the head, will stop just about anyone.
As far as all the statistics I could find on "One Shot Stopping Power", the .40 S&W COR-BON 135-GR is rated the highest (96% to 98%)with a .357 Mag Fed 125-GR JHP leading the way in revolvers. I'm not knocking the 9mm but a smaller grain bullet is recommended in self defense. My information shows a COR-BON 115-GR JHP+P with the best "One Shot Stopping Power" (91%).
I think we both agree that stitching up the seams (mid-section, 2 in the chest, and one in the head) will take care of business with either gun.
For your information from an earlier post
http://www.alpharubicon.com/leo/calloadgoshin.htm
Who covers security companies?
Pizza Hut has a policy...No guns for employees! Therefore this employee was not following company policy. He should have been fired.
I called the main number just now (because my cell plan gives me free weekend minutes). The number is
502-874-8300
During off hours, you will get the recorded message. When you do, press *8 then *2 to dial by name. Mr. Novak, the CEO, is unreachable. However, their "chief people officer"
Anne Byerlein IS reachable. I just left her a message.
Why, won't the police return his? If there was any justice (but TANJ!) He'd be awarded the robber's gun for the public service of cleaning up the gene pool.
Sounds like "Good Thing" to me.
They are open to them anyway, from the survivors of deliverymen (and women!) killed because they were unarmed. It's already happened many times. If they would allow carry only by individuals licensed by the state they'd probably be able to shift any liability to the state. They'd then only have a problem in those few states who obey the federal and their own state's Constitutions and do not infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms.
Time to get a .45
In other words, they don't give a sh*t about the lives of their employees, and are more concerned about the bottom line.
I agree. There are other places to buy pizza and that's what we plan to do.
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