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Pizza Hut Fires Driver For Carrying Gun; Driver Said He Killed Armed Robber
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| May 18th, 2004
Posted on 05/21/2004 10:15:03 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: KAUAIBOUND; baldie
What is not mentioned in the article is the coroners report that Brown was so high on meth or crack that he would not have reacted to the initial half dozen gunshot wounds.
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posted on
05/21/2004 1:35:37 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
( "Lady, I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element")
To: BlazingArizona
After all these robberies just exactly how many delivery drivers are you expecting to end up dead? Just curious.
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posted on
05/21/2004 1:50:54 PM PDT
by
Nebr FAL owner
(.308 REACH OUT & THUMP SOMEONE .50BMG REACH OUT & CRUSH SOMEONE!)
To: Nebr FAL owner
After all these robberies just exactly how many delivery drivers are you expecting to end up dead? Just curious. Deaths that any competent lawyer could blame directly on the no-carry policy. Any excess deaths over some industrywide average would indicate a policy failure, just as though the company had told its crane operators to walk under suspended loads. This would then lead to policy changes that would improve driver safety. Let's see the corporate PC weenies have to decide between "Allow drivers with CCW permits to carry guns" and "Do not deliver to Zip codes XXXX, YYYYY,..."
To: petro45acp
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posted on
05/21/2004 8:48:08 PM PDT
by
Hat-Trick
(Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
To: Servant of the 9
I have bought my last Pizz Hut pizza
So have I.
To: TERMINATTOR
The moral of the story is, never brandish during a gun fight!Uh, I'd say the moral is he who shoots first and hits the target wins....
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posted on
05/21/2004 9:13:04 PM PDT
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: TERMINATTOR
He said he pulled out his 9 mm pistol and fired all 15 rounds at close range. Even with the use of a low power catridge like the 9, that will do the job. Wow! (15 rounds of .22 LR at close range probably would as well).
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:10:47 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: cinFLA
I don't even fire 15 consecutive shots when at the firing range! Must have been some sight! If the range will allow it, you should on occasion. Many times the police empty their pistols during gunfights as well. The rule is you shoot until the threat is neutralized. Some people are slow to realize when that has been accomplished. :)
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:17:59 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: El Gato
If the range will allow it, you should on occasion. Many times the police empty their pistols during gunfights as well. The rule is you shoot until the threat is neutralized. Some people are slow to realize when that has been accomplished. :) News to me. Next time I will empty all 15 shots and then assess the threat.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:21:51 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: El Gato
Even with the use of a low power catridge like the 9, that will do the job. The 9mm is NOT a low power cartridge.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:23:01 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: BlazingArizona
After a wave of robberies, the policy will get changed. No it won't. What the suits are worried about it getting sued when a driver only manages to wound the would be robber, or by the survivors. Money is not expendable to them, deliverymen are. It's not like this is the first time they've fired a deliveryman over carrying and they have lost several to robbers and even to sickos who deliberately lure the drivers to an isolated area just so they can kill them.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:23:06 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: cinFLA
The 9mm is NOT a low power cartridge. Well, relative to some others it is. But I was actually just pulling the chain of the 9mm aficianodos. I prefer big and slow bullets, like .45 ACP. Good enough to stop drugged up Muslim Moros, not mention all the Old West bad guys stopped by the ballitically similar .45 (long) Colt, should be good enough for most any encounter where a pistol is the appropriate tool.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:30:12 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: El Gato
Well, relative to some others it is. But I was actually just pulling the chain of the 9mm aficianodos. I prefer big and slow bullets, like .45 ACP.But then he would not have had 15 shots! :-)
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:33:03 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: cinFLA
Next time I will empty all 15 shots and then assess the threat. While not a bad tactic, it leaves you with an empty pistol should the threat not be completely neutralized.
If you read the story, the guy said he kept shooting because the assailant didn't seem to even react to being shot, so he did evaluate the threat and determined to continue firing.
If nothing else, the guy seems fairly well briefed about what to say to the police, and the press, in such a situtation. Maybe he's a Freeper?
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:34:55 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: cinFLA
But then he would not have had 15 shots! :-) And he wouldn't have needed them either. :)
Not that I suspect he actually did in this case either, but then I wasn't there.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:36:41 AM PDT
by
El Gato
(Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
To: TERMINATTOR; Lazamataz
Not going to read the thread (Laz taught me that).
T'is better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
5.56mm
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:37:10 AM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: Fixit
"It's my life. I choose which policy to follow." Pro Choice on firearms eh?
;^>
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:42:34 AM PDT
by
TeleStraightShooter
(Kerry{D-Hanoi} plans to apply post-Vietnam policy to Iraq: Exit & let the Syrian Baathists take over)
To: TERMINATTOR
I thought Jerome Brown died a dozen years ago...
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:44:04 AM PDT
by
ErnBatavia
(Because Democrats are liars, they assume Republicans are too...)
To: El Gato
Well, relative to some others it is. But I was actually just pulling the chain of the 9mm aficianodos. I prefer big and slow bullets, like .45 ACP. In that the 9 mm +P exceeds the power of a 'big and slow" 45 acp, I guess you would have to say the 45 ACP is a 'low power' cartridge.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:46:34 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
To: El Gato
If the range will allow it, you should on occasion. Actually, I don't like trying to press the last two or three cartidges into the magazine! Since I am also a revolver fan, I usually practice with six in my auto also. I grew up "counting the shots" in my revolvers and didn't really get into autos till later. Only my 9mm has large capacity. The 357, 40 and 380 (all sigs) have smaller capacity mags.
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posted on
05/22/2004 11:53:56 AM PDT
by
cinFLA
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