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To: kattracks; Alamo-Girl; blackie; SandRat; SAMWolf; prairiebreeze; MEG33; McGavin999; Maigrey; ...
Nick Berg + hundreds of thousands of Iraqi victims of murder, rape, torture over three decades, + millions of Iraqis oppressed, terrorized....
 
...the Iraqi people, our troops, Americans who lost loved ones on 9-11, freedom-lovers, and freedom-fighters of the free world - who are still being misled about the war, our enemies, and our honorable troops, by our free press - deserve an answer...

...what did they know and when did they know it?

8 Mass Graves of Iraq: Uncovering Atrocities ~ CPA 
8
 THE CRUELEST COVER-UP ~ Tales of Saddam's Brutality, condensed version. FR thread.
8
Tales of Saddam's Brutality  ~  various mainstream press accounts, White House Iraq archive - available long ago.

8 
Graphic proof from Saddam's Killing Fields ~ Photos ~ http://www.9neesan.com | the dead of Iraq
8 
Iraqi Columnist: The Occupation of Iraq Means Liberty, Even if the Whole World Maintains Otherwise ~ Al-Sharq Al-Awsat
8 Baghdad, with Victims ~ To those with eyes to see, Saddam Hussein’s butchery was reason enough for war ~ 12/03/03 
8 
I Was Wrong! ~ Ken Joseph's important April, '03 essay. An Assyrian Christian and human shield learns of the Iraqi people's suffering. 
8 TEXT FROM INTERCEPTED LETTER WRITTEN BY SUSPECTED TERRORIST LEADER ABU MUS’AB AL-ZARQAWI ~ CENTCOM | 2/19/04 

8 Iraqi govt. papers: Saddam bribed Chirac ~ Washington Times - UPI | 1/28/04
8 Saddam Stole Billions From U.N. ~ ABC News | 5/20/03 | Brian Ross and Ronda Schwartz
8 The Real Scandal Of Iraqi Relief  ~ NGOs in Iraq ~ New York Post | 5/11/03 | Jonathon Foreman
8 Saddam's Cash  ~ the price Saddam paid to silence willing NGOs, press and pols ~ The Weekly Standard  |  5/5/03 | Stephen F. Hayes
8 Press scandal: Kowtowing in Iraq ~ John Burns exposes the scandal that is the press in Iraq ~ New York Daily News  | 9/17/03 | Zev Chafets


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32 posted on 05/21/2004 1:52:05 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The media will pay for their sins of omission ~ Bump!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

33 posted on 05/21/2004 2:01:46 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; kattracks; Alamo-Girl
I am in no way condoning what happened to the Iraqi prisoners...however, I think it is vitally important that none of us have seen these matters in their proper perspective...


* Saddam had Iraqi men, women and children put to death in human meat grinders on a daily basis...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

*Saddam had people thrown off of 3 - 4 story buildings, while their relatives were forced to watch...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

* Saddam had people's tongues cut out, limbs chopped of, and even beheaded, while their families were forced to watch...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

* Saddam's sons, as well as other Administrators and military personnel raped and sodomized Iraqi girls, some as young as 8 years old, on a daily basis...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

* Saddam's regime indiscriminately put to death millions of Iraqi citizens on a daily basis, during the term of his brutal dictatorship, as evidenced by the mass graves recently uncovered in various parts of Iraq...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

* Terrorists recently exploded several car bombs in Baghdad, killing 17 innocent Iraqi children and several dozen innocent Iraqi citizens...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

* Terrorists have been killing American/Coalition soldiers on a daily basis since we sent our troops, many of whom gave their lives on Iraqi soil, used US taxpayer dollars to liberate the Iraqi people...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

* Four Americans were killed in Fallujah, their bodies were burned, mutilated, drug through the streets and hung on a bridge...while Iraqi people cheered and stoned the bodies...
NO OUTCRY FROM THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY...

AND NOW, A FEW IRAQI PRISONERS HAVE BEEN HUMILITATED (poor babies)...A PAIR OF WOMENS UNDERWARE PUT ON THE PRISONERS HEADS, A FEW NAKED PHOTOGRAPHS... (Think about why those men were put into that Iraqi prison in the first place ! They were either suspect terrorists or discovered to be members of the Iraqi insurgency committing acts of terrorism against U.S. and allied forces.)

AND THE MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE AND THE ENTIRE ARAB COMMUNITY GO BALLASTIC...GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

As I said, I don't condone in any way what happened to the prisoners...but until MEDIA, LIBERALS, EUROPE, UN, IRAQI PEOPLE AND THE ENTIRE ARAB COMMUNITY get their act together...

I wish the American news effete elite intelligentsia and liberals would stop being part of the problem and stop using this story to their own self aggrandizement or to foster propaganda for the radicals.

I DON'T WANT MY PRESIDENT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE ENEMY (FOREIGN DOMESTIC) FOR ANYTHING! WE ARE AT WAR!
34 posted on 05/21/2004 5:42:31 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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