‘Same sex’ marriage in Massachusetts just the beginning

Citizen ^ | May 20, 2004 | Cal Thomas

[NYer]

Paul the Apostle long ago saw what happens when people remove boundaries: ‘‘For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.’’ (2 Timothy 4:3).

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[NYer]

The International Olympic Committee last Monday cleared transsexuals to compete in the Olympics for the first time providing their new gender has been legally recognized and they have gone through a minimum two-year period of postoperative hormone therapy.

Ping!

[Saundra Duffy]

I'm hoping this will be John Kerry's undoing. The VAST MAJORITY of Americans are opposed to same sex marriages. This crap started in John Kerry's home state - him and Ted Kennedy! John Kerry says he's for marriage of a man and a woman but he supports "civil unions". He's at it again, trying to have it both ways. Also, Kerry refused to sign the marriage protection pledge or whatever you call it.

[Alain2112]

The International Olympic Committee last Monday cleared transsexuals to compete in the Olympics for the first time providing their new gender has been legally recognized and they have gone through a minimum two-year period of postoperative hormone therapy.

Wow! I had no idea - thanks for tip-off. Does this have anything to do with the Olymipcs being held in Greece?

[MHGinTN]

Legally, the shift began in 1993 when the Hawaii Supreme Court ruled that barring same-sex couples from ‘‘marrying’’ might violate the state constitution’s prohibition on sexual discrimination and must be justified by a compelling reason. The judges should have been impeached and removed post haste ... there are two sexes, male and female. Homosexuality is not a sex, it is degeneracy of one or other of the two actual sexes. For judges to create a penumbra of identity where none exists is tantamount to canceling the Constitution.

[randog]

...their new gender has been legally recognized and they have gone through a minimum two-year period of postoperative hormone therapy.

Lemme get this straight: in the eyes of the Olympic Committee, she-males/he-womyn can take hormones to alter their bodies, but men/women can't take steroids to alter their bodies?

[Askel5]

=== I'm hoping this will be John Kerry's undoing

Why only John Kerry's undoing?

Because Bush reserves the right for any state to recognize "civil unions" as they see fit and preserves the Word "marriage" for heteros, he gets a pass?

[backhoe]

Crosslink:

-A Gay ( or not! ) Old Time- GM links--

[Askel5]

=== Homosexuality is not a sex, it is degeneracy of one or other of the two actual sexes.


A more sound argument would be that it negates the procreative nature of sex while retaining only the unitive.

(As does sex between heterosexuals using birth control.)

Forget the ensuing quakes as homosexual marriage and "civil unions" progressed in certain states. Fact is the seismic shift came once heterosexuals rendered children an "option" of marital union.

[ken5050]

As Justice Thomas predicted, "traditional" ( my term of art) polygamists will now sue to get their lifestyle legitimized, but they will fail, because polygamy has no PC clout, no press, no buzz..But just wait, because one day in the near future, three men and /or three women will sue to be legally married...that's when the Apocalypse hits the fan..

[biblewonk]

This country deserves same sex marriage for kicking God out.

[AMDG&BVMH]

"negates the procreative nature of sex while retaining only the unitive"

No, there is no unitive nature, either. There are no complementary parts to unite. What do lesbians try to unite, anyway?

[tuesday afternoon]

‘‘Pro-family’’ groups have given it their best shot, but this debate is over. They would do better to spend their energy and resources building up their side of the cultural divide and demonstrating how their own precepts are supposed to work.

Is this a blue-red divide?

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

But Bush wants to take the issue away from the courts. That's the key element. At the point a majority of the people actually WANT civil unions, we are doomed anyway. The problem is having this forced on us when the people do not want it. Yes it's wrong either way, but our gov't is a gov't of the people. That's important too.

[AMDG&BVMH]

"the Olympic Committee, she-males/he-womyn can take hormones to alter their bodies, but men/women can't take steroids to alter their bodies?"

Thus self-destructs the idea of meaningful competition. How can a woman compete with someone who grew to full stature under the influence of male hormones (bone and muscle structure, etc) even if he has been taking female hormones for the past two years?!?

[Little Bill]

Bad format ping

[TonyInOhio]

WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK...AND I USE IT TOO

Bugs Bunny as Teddy Roosevelt, right?

[biblewonk]

Bugs Bunny as Teddy Roosevelt, right?

Yup! And Yosemite Sam as himself! Bugs said he spoke softly and carried a big stick and then Yosemite said my tagline and starts wacking him with his stick. It seemed perfect.

[MHGinTN]

Askel, chemical or barrier contraception tends to dehumanize the conceived as 'an accident to be avoided', but I don't argue with a person's individual right to avoid pregnancy by whatever means. I DO argue with those who dehumanize a newly conceived alive individual human being as something to be disposed of. Sexual reproduction is accomplished via the union of two sexes via their gametes. There are only two sexes in the human species. That some degenerates have achieved court recognition of their chosen sexual proclivities as if a separate sex identity is absurd on the face of it and the reason I believe such judges should be impeached and removed for societal engineering not judicial work.