Posted on 05/19/2004 3:17:54 PM PDT by stillnoprotestsagainstmuslims
Families Lash Out at Giuliani at Hearing
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By MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN, Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK - Outraged relatives of World Trade Center victims heckled former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (news - web sites) on Wednesday as their hopes that he would be grilled by the Sept. 11 commission faded in the face of gentle questioning and effusive praise from panel members. "My son was murdered because of your incompetence!" shouted Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son died in the trade center. Seated three rows behind Giuliani, she jabbed her finger at the former mayor and waved a sign that read "Fiction" as he gave the city's emergency response a glowing review.
Giuliani finished his testimony and abruptly left the auditorium minutes later, leaving many family members upset that they received few answers. Monica Gabrielle, who lost her husband, Richard, called it a "lost opportunity."
"This was not a time for Rudy Giuliani to talk about all the great things he did on 9/11," she said. "He can save that for his talking tours. He should have told us what went wrong and what we should do now."
The acrimonious hearing brought together the mayor, who became a symbol of heroism for his steady response to the attack, and the activist relatives who have become a voice of dissent over his administration's emergency planning and response.
Their complaints have been supported by a growing mass of critical findings on gaps in command, control and communications among New York's agencies in charge of emergency response.
The anger directed at Giuliani came on the second and final day of hearings in New York by the Sept. 11 commission, created by Congress last year to investigate the attacks and advise the country on ways to avoid future attacks. The hearings resume in Washington on June 8-9 and the final report is due July 26.
The commission released two reports that mark the most comprehensive probe to date of New York's response on Sept 11. The findings detailed a list of failings including poor communication, gulfs in cooperation between police and firefighters and grave deficiencies in the city's 911 emergency telephone network.
The report led to an aggressive interrogation of Giuliani's top fire, police and emergency management officials Tuesday, with Republican appointee John F. Lehman, a former Navy secretary under President Reagan, calling the failings "a scandal" and "not worthy of the Boy Scouts."
Ex-fire commissioner Thomas Von Essen later called Lehman's comments "outrageous" and "despicable."
The harsh questioning of Giuliani's former team was a sharp contrast to the universal praise that commission members heaped on the former mayor Wednesday. His positive assessment of such hotly debated topics as the 911 phone system and gaps in fire and police communications went virtually unchallenged.
"New York City, on that terrible day, in a sense was blessed because it had you as leader," said commission chairman and former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean. "It had somebody who was a great, great leader to take charge of a terrible, terrible event. You also had, as you've told us, some of the best people in the country to call on who worked for you and worked for the city."
Family members called the Giuliani questioning weak.
"A lot of these questions that the public has may die with this commission," said Patricia Casazza, whose husband died as the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald filled with smoke.
Giuliani began his testimony Wednesday with a call to focus on the nation's true enemies and not criticize each other.
"Our enemy is not each other but the terrorists who attacked us, murdered our loved ones and continue to offer a threat to our security, safety and survival," Giuliani said to applause.
Later, Giuliani was chastised by members of the public. A longtime city gadfly berated him and the commission, yelling, "Three thousand people murdered does not mean leadership!" He and another person were hustled out of the room.
Others in the audience shouted about the failure of Fire Department radios, shouting, "Talk about the radios!"
"You're simply wasting time at this point," commission head Thomas Kean told the family members.
"YOU'RE wasting time!" came the angry reply.
Giuliani began his remarks by describing a September morning that began at breakfast with two friends and quickly turned into unimaginable horror as two hijacked planes slammed into the twin towers, killing 2,749 people and rattling the city's psyche.
As Giuliani recalled watching a man leap from around the 102nd floor of the north tower, family members began to cry, clearly disturbed by the account.
The hearing was held at the New School University in Greenwich Village — about 1 1/2 miles from ground zero.
Giuliani also told the commission that warnings of a possible terrorist attack on New York contained in an Aug. 6, 2001, White House briefing paper never reached City Hall, but probably would not have changed local security precautions.
The intelligence briefing for President Bush (news - web sites) referred to evidence of federal buildings in New York possibly being cased by terrorists. It mentioned New York or the World Trade Center three times.
"If that information had been given to us, or more warnings had been given in the summer of 2001, I can't honestly tell you we'd do anything differently," said Giuliani, who has become one of the Bush administration's most vocal supporters. "We were doing at the time everything we could think of ... to protect the city."
Current Mayor Michael Bloomberg later testified that New York was recently advised by Congress that its homeland security funding for the 2004 budget year would be cut by nearly 50 percent. Thinly populated states such as Nebraska, North Dakota and Wyoming receive several times more funding per capita than New York, he said.
"This is pork-barrel politics at its worst," the mayor said. "It also, unfortunately, has the effect of aiding and abetting those who hate us and plot against us."
Right,gillman..Who flew those planes?
Trust me, if the terrorists were running for office, in a party not their own, only then would they discredit the terrorists.
Disgraceful is the perfect word for this entire process.
HellInAHandCart,
So you're leaving NYC. Where are you moving to?
"...these pathetic families have worn out their welcome....They're all millionaires now anyway"
My sentiments EXACTLY! The next time we get hit (and it will happen), I'm not donating a red cent. I'll help out in my community, but that's it. These folks are taking advantage of their victim status. My sympathy is waning. I used to be a kind person. Now I'm just disgusted with it all.
We could crush THOSE idiots like bugs if it wasn't for our domestic enemies.
At that point, I lost all respect for the hecklers. Even Benveniste led off with that small-minded bit of inquiry.
I'm sure most of the 9/11 families have some dignity - this crowd is making a fool of itself.
Out here in flyover country, I'm hearing a lot of people saying that.
Do any of the ladies from the "families" go by the nom de guerre "Madame DeFarge"?
Does she spend her time watching the guillotine and doing her knitting?
This whole circus has been such a farce. Kean should have been thrown out the first time the Madame DeFarges interrupted the proceedings with their applause and boos, and that was long ago.
I saw it and think the outbreak was staged. We saw everything that happened on tv that day. Its quite a strech to say anyone but terrorists caused the death of the people in the twin towers.
These "family members" have been acting like total jerks. Their 15 minutes of fame will soon be over, thank goodness.
Yes, basically they're trying take away the 911 issue from President Bush, because it's the biggy and they have no share in it.
And, let's not forget, 24 hour Tragedy TV on multiple cable boxes/satellite dishes.
Recommendation to the hysterical Regenhard:
Get yourself a good psychiatrist, then FYS.
Your son was murdered because Bill Clinton did nothing to take Osama bin Laden into custody when he was offered bin Laden by the Sudan.
Your son died because Senator Kerry did nothing when advised by Logan Airport security checkers that Logan was very lax in its security enforcement and would be an ideal place from which terrorists could mount an attack. Kerry failed to pass the information to proper authorities.
Your son died for a thousand other reasons - opportunities ignored and information left unanalyzed. He did not die because Rudy Guiliani did something, or failed to do something. Rudy did everything a fine leader could have done that day.
Finally, I am quite confident that your husband probably wishes that you had been in the WTC that day, rather than his son.
I am starting to agree that this is a coordinated effort to distort and discount 9-11 altogether. To get at Bush.
If it were a DemonRAT running for re-election after 9-11, we would be seeing the planes fly into the buildings and people jumping to the ground every night on the MSM.
Going after Bush is one thing, but using 9-11 to do it, goes beyond despicable to a place that's just mind-boggling. Brit Humes panel tonight basically said that except for a few reports from Commission staffers, the actual commission has lost so much credibility that most of the report won't be accepted as valid.
It won't be worth the paper it's printed on.
Prairie
Seems to me there would be a combination of the Jersey Girls and their similar, non-"bereaved" entertainment partners, the Dixie Chicks...
Ideas?
The applause was VERY scant when Giuliani said this....
Should be the quote of the day!
You're right, MizSterious. Let's let "Quote of The Day Man" know!
Is a sorry dituation..I feel sorry for victims and families
and then I feel sad that maybe these people arer plants to discredit a very chaotic time and situation....The final
report better be free of the political climate....it must
show the negligence of the Clinton administration and his
cabinet for not doing what Bush has done..go after them
aggressively..and what are they trying to do to Bush...to
discredfit anything he does or has done...just hope and
pray that these people stay out of power...Kerry and all
of them have no clue....and our citizens will pay dearly
with the policies they put in place under the guidance of the United Nations....ye gads..will they ever learn?? Jake
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