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Fritz Hollings blames Iraq on American Jews and Israel
Hollings Homepage ^ | May 6 2004 | Fritz Hollings

Posted on 05/19/2004 1:22:00 PM PDT by aft_lizard

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To: Know your rights

How about Condoleeza Rice? Or Fred Barnes? Besides which, what the heck have Wolfowitz, Perle and Krauthammer got to do with each other besides the fact that they are all Jewish and conservative? Perle isn't in the Bush administration, and Charles Krauthammer is a columnist. Want to explain that? It's call anti-semitic paranoia. Hollings even brings the Mossad into this. The only thing that remotely relates any of the trash Hollings is spewing is that the people he mentions are Jewish. And he's working on the idiotic assumption that America has no vested interest in eliminating threats in the middle east.


81 posted on 05/21/2004 7:06:28 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: ken5050

#10 Good one! LOL!


82 posted on 05/21/2004 7:16:07 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Cinnamon Girl
How about Condoleeza Rice?

Was she as prominent a proponent of war with Iraq as Wolfowitz, Perle, or Krauthammer?

Or Fred Barnes?

So his failure to name Barnes makes him an anti-Semite? Please.

Besides which, what the heck have Wolfowitz, Perle and Krauthammer got to do with each other besides the fact that they are all Jewish and conservative?

Um, they were prominent proponents of war with Iraq?

Hollings even brings the Mossad into this. [...] And he's working on the idiotic assumption that America has no vested interest in eliminating threats in the middle east.

Nothing anti-Semitic about either of those. Conservatives have never held that to criticize any member of group X at any time for any reason is to be an anti-X bigot; that's liberal crybaby victimology, in which we should not engage simply to take a few shots at a Rat.

83 posted on 05/21/2004 7:19:24 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights; rantblogger; monkeyshine; SJackson
So you're saying that columnist Charles Krauthammer has more influence on the President than Condoleeza Rice? Interesting. And in your mind is President Bush Jewish? A lot of Muslims think so.

You didn't answer any of my questions and you kind of skipped over the bizarre Mossad reference altogether. Unless I see some rational explanation from you about this senile rant from Hollings, I'm planning on assuming you are in fact Pat Buchanan.

84 posted on 05/21/2004 7:24:18 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: truth_seeker
"In the Mideast, terrorism is a separate problem to be defeated by diplomacy and negotiation, not militarily."

Pretty much sums up the policy of our democrats (candidates, etc.).

They presume the UN could do a better job, with no evidence.

Negotiating with terrorists never seemed like a good idea, except to democrats.

There is nothing more blind than a politician. If anything's been proven in the mideast, the only way that terrorists MUST be dealt with is violently and with no mercy. It was only when Israel began negotiating with them that the terrorist attacks really ratched up. Back when Israel's only response was to kill terrorists, attacks were far less common.

Mark

85 posted on 05/21/2004 7:38:34 AM PDT by MarkL (The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
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To: aft_lizard; smiley

Hollings..............Did he Google?

This incident and the next gave huge credibility to Sharon’s claim broadcast by Israel Radio on 3 October 2001.

At the time Sharon was berating Foreign Minister Shimon Peres in Cabinet.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon Said...

“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”

"America controls the world, and Israel controls America."

Nothing but fun on-line chit-chat...

86 posted on 05/21/2004 7:51:04 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Know your rights; Cinnamon Girl
Which non-Jews were as prominent as the men he listed in pushing for war with Iraq?

George Bush, Richard Cheney, Colin Powell, Condie Rice for starters. Or are they just a bunch of saps for the Jews?

Can you show me anything that would support the theory that "Da Jews" were pushing for war in Iraq? Voting records, congressional or otherwise, won't confirm that. There was a great deal of support for the war withing the administration and congress, as well as opposition, and all you and Hollings can point to are the three "Jews". Laughable.

87 posted on 05/21/2004 7:53:48 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: Major_Risktaker

So you think Hollings gets his info from other nuts' webpages? Most likely.


88 posted on 05/21/2004 7:56:34 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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So you're saying that columnist Charles Krauthammer has more influence on the President than Condoleeza Rice?

Hollings was not addressing "influence on the President" but leadership of a "school of thought" that has been around "for years."

You didn't answer any of my questions

False. The only question I didn't answer was,"Do you think only Jews are pro-Israel?" The answer is no; in fact, I am fairly pro-Israel myself.

and you kind of skipped over the bizarre Mossad reference altogether.

No, I addressed that one.

89 posted on 05/21/2004 8:11:43 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: SJackson
Which non-Jews were as prominent as the men he listed [Wolfowitz, Perle, and Krauthammer] in pushing for war with Iraq?

George Bush, Richard Cheney, Colin Powell, Condie Rice for starters.

Had they been doing so "for years" as Hollings was discussing?

Can you show me anything that would support the theory that "Da Jews" were pushing for war in Iraq?

I have not stated that theory, nor as far as I can see did Hollings.

90 posted on 05/21/2004 8:15:31 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
This nice man get his head removed.

This evil, vile animal lives?

WHY?

91 posted on 05/21/2004 8:59:04 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Know your rights
George Bush, Richard Cheney, Colin Powell, Condie Rice for starters. ...Had they been doing so "for years" as Hollings was discussing?

Apparently, George Bush came to town with the objective of overthrowing Iraq as the cornerstone of his "Israel" policy. He just couldn't admit it. Paul O'Neill, another Jew pawn I assume, was in charge of laying the groundwork. Clearly he thought of it pre-election

92 posted on 05/21/2004 9:05:29 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
It's call anti-semitic paranoia. Hollings even brings the Mossad into this. The only thing that remotely relates any of the trash Hollings is spewing is that the people he mentions are Jewish. And he's working on the idiotic assumption that America has no vested interest in eliminating threats in the middle east.

And the same bigoted morons masquerading as Republicans who expound these theories wonder why some Jews worry that the right is racist.

93 posted on 05/21/2004 9:20:05 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: SJackson
Had they been doing so [pushing for war with Iraq] "for years" as Hollings was discussing?

Apparently, George Bush came to town with the objective of overthrowing Iraq as the cornerstone of his "Israel" policy. He just couldn't admit it.

In other words, no.

Paul O'Neill, another Jew pawn I assume, was in charge of laying the groundwork.

You've misread Hollings: "George W. Bush, as stated by former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill and others, started laying the groundwork to invade Iraq days after inauguration."

94 posted on 05/21/2004 10:13:10 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Really? Where did you explain the Mossad thingy? And Condoleeza has been around for quite a while. But Charles Krauthammer is, once again, still just a columnist. Your desperate attempt to defend the blatherings of a crazy geriatric jerk named On-the-Fritz Hollings makes it clear to me that you are a poser.

In conclusion: Hi, Pat!

95 posted on 05/21/2004 12:18:21 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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Where did you explain the Mossad thingy?

I addressed it in post #83.

And Condoleeza has been around for quite a while.

As a leader of a "school of thought"?

But Charles Krauthammer is, once again, still just a columnist.

That in no way disqualifies him from leadership of a "school of thought" that has been around "for years."

96 posted on 05/24/2004 6:02:37 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: aft_lizard

The mainstream media of course is silent as usual. Though it would be in a predictable tizzy if the Senator in question had a R in front of his name. Same old tiring but predictable double standard.


97 posted on 05/26/2004 11:03:38 AM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: aft_lizard

Iraq was invaded both in the Gulf War and this time partly so Israel would not have to resort to war to defend itself. That war would be destructive beyond imagination. The article is correct as far as that goes. All the rest of the article is hog slop. No, it's not even hog slop: not even hogs would touch it.


98 posted on 05/26/2004 11:08:14 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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