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Ovation for Moore's 'Fahrenheit' lasts longer than Bush dawdled
Chicago Sun Times ^ | Ebert

Posted on 05/19/2004 7:45:48 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

CANNES, France -- Two questions involving the duration of events: (1) So how long, exactly, was the standing ovation for Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11"? And (2) Did President Bush actually remain in a Florida classroom, reading from My Pet Goat, for seven minutes after he was informed of the second attack on the World Trade Center?

Moore's anti-Bush documentary was received rapturously at its black-tie screening here Monday, and a friend told me the ovation lasted 25 minutes. In my report I suggested that Cannes ovations, like the estimates of parade crowds in Chicago, have a tendency to be exaggerated. Since I attended an 8 a.m. press screening, I was not inside the Palais des Festivals to clock it myself.

Now I have another source. The ovation lasted 20 minutes, according to Variety, which may be correct, because its reporters all carry stopwatches to check the running times of movies.

In any event it was "the longest ovation in the history of the festival," according to Thierry Fremaux, the festival's director. At a party Monday evening, I asked Moore. "It depends on when you start counting," he said. "Do you start with the beginning of the closing credits or when the lights go up? When they just wouldn't stop clapping, I walked out and they kept applauding in the lobby."

And as for Bush's delay in reacting to the attack on the World Trade Center? Conventional wisdom has it that the president was reading to schoolchildren when he got the news and quickly left the room.

The Moore version: He was informed of the first attack, went into the room anyway, was informed of the second attack, and remained with the students until a staff member suggested that he leave.

"The teacher in that Sarasota classroom happened to tape the whole event," Moore told me. "We'd seen other footage from the networks, but it was all edited. She just left the camera running. She said nobody had ever asked her for the film. Bush didn't instinctively jump up and go into action, but just stayed on autopilot until someone told him what to do."

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barf; ebert; fahrenheit911; rogerebert
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To: Sir Gawain
Did President Bush actually remain in a Florida classroom...

This is the best they can come up with.....? They will never, ever realize just how out of touch with the public they are.

21 posted on 05/19/2004 8:14:45 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: ActionNewsBill

Hey Bill.....EXACTLY what did you want President Bush to do in that 20 minutes in the school classroom?


22 posted on 05/19/2004 8:14:52 AM PDT by bigdog (It's going to get hot around here)
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To: ActionNewsBill

What could he have done? All he could do was order any planes not heading to a landing at the nearest airport shot down.


24 posted on 05/19/2004 8:16:35 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I cannot believe I just said that!)
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To: Sir Gawain
Conventional wisdom has it that the president was reading to schoolchildren when he got the news and quickly left the room.

That's a strawman, not the conventional wisdom. I've never seen that claimed anywhere but leftist hit pieces, like this one.

The Moore version: He was informed of the first attack, went into the room anyway, was informed of the second attack, and remained with the students until a staff member suggested that he leave.

That's a twisted version of the story. there were plenty of good reasons for it to be done exactly the way it was done, none of which are quoted here.

"The teacher in that Sarasota classroom happened to tape the whole event," Moore told me. "We'd seen other footage from the networks, but it was all edited. She just left the camera running. She said nobody had ever asked her for the film. Bush didn't instinctively jump up and go into action, but just stayed on autopilot until someone told him what to do."

His advisors and staff were continuing the plan they laid out before he went in. Words like 'dawddled' and 'autopilot' are just deceptive leftist spin.

25 posted on 05/19/2004 8:16:41 AM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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To: RagingBull

That is exactly what I thought about, too.


26 posted on 05/19/2004 8:18:31 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (I cannot believe I just said that!)
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To: bigdog
Hey Bill.....EXACTLY what did you want President Bush to do in that 20 minutes in the school classroom?

Oh, I don't know....maybe TAKING CHARGE OF THE SITUATION instead of lollygagging around and reading to some school kids.

Anything would have been an improvement.

27 posted on 05/19/2004 8:18:31 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("Just because it's on TV, it doesn't mean it's true.")
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To: Corin Stormhands

YUP!

BFD. So he didnt deviate from his plans for a few minutes.

Actually, this will help the President. They try to tarnish his image, but any reminder that we are in a post 9/11 world helps to clarify what is important and who can lead us in these troubled times.


28 posted on 05/19/2004 8:20:07 AM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Josh in PA

"Can you imagine being a little tyke there, seeing a guy whisper something into the President of the United States ear, and then watch him make a mad dash for the exits."


Given the nature of the situation of that particular horrific day, that type of action would've been 100% justified. Those little tykes probably saw the planes flying into the towers at some point, a far more horrific, scary site than watching our CnC go into action.


29 posted on 05/19/2004 8:20:37 AM PDT by Blzbba
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To: Sir Gawain

 

 

30 posted on 05/19/2004 8:20:49 AM PDT by Fintan (© 1950)
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To: ActionNewsBill
"I've seen the video...Moore is right on this one."

So...I'm guessing that Bush was supposed to have [rudely] jumped up and went into mass panic mode [a liberal], scared the schoolchildren beyond belief, and dashed out of the classroom, to the nearest phone booth, donned his tights and cape and flew to New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania [simultaneously, of course] and immediately rescued all the victims.

Better still, if the liberals and the 9/11 commission have their way, Bush should have done like Superman in the movie where he flew at super-speed around the world, therefore reversing time and arrested the terrorists before they even boarded the planes.

Even better, he should have switched partys and became a democRAT and THEN did all the heroics.

Ok...you got us here...moore was right...now your job is to stand in place for 20 minutes, and applaud.

I'm glad we got that straight.....
31 posted on 05/19/2004 8:21:52 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: ActionNewsBill
Having watched the first live broadcast report in the country, on WNEW channel 5 in NY, it was reported that a small plane went into the building. They interview, on air, a maintenance man at the WTC who saw the plane go into the building and he said it was a small plane, probably due to his perspective from the ground. No mention of a commercial plane. The tenor of the report was that this was an accident that they were witnessing.
32 posted on 05/19/2004 8:23:09 AM PDT by CaptainK
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To: ActionNewsBill
There was nothing certain about the situation then. People weren't sure what was happening. It was a nuke bomb blast, nor even a big truck bomb.

At that point no one was sure why a plane had flown into the WTC.

33 posted on 05/19/2004 8:23:27 AM PDT by bvw
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To: ActionNewsBill

"Don't you think his "duty" to the nation after the first plane hit was just a little bit more important than the "feelings" of a few school kids?"


As this nation's CnC, yes. Apparently, I'm in the minority here. Most people here seem to have no problems with the CnC not really doing anything as New York City burned and a known hijacked plane was approaching the DC airspace. Amazingly, almost 30 minutes would pass before Bush left that school AND before the Pentagon was hit. Stunningly, few Bushbots have a problem with this.


34 posted on 05/19/2004 8:24:10 AM PDT by Blzbba
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To: I still care
Unknown to John F. Kerry and fortunately for the rest of us, France still carries precisely zero electoral votes. Pandering to the French is bound to lose him votes that really count.
35 posted on 05/19/2004 8:25:16 AM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: Blzbba

Excuse me, but we just weren't prepared. I'm certainly no Bushbot, but c'mon. Rummy was still in the Pentagon when it hit. You think they knew what the magnitude of this was withing 5 minutes?


36 posted on 05/19/2004 8:26:14 AM PDT by Monty22
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To: FrankR
Ok...you got us here...moore was right...now your job is to stand in place for 20 minutes, and applaud.

To be honest, I wouldn't give him 20 seconds, but don't let the facts stop you from posting your ignorance.

37 posted on 05/19/2004 8:26:39 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("Just because it's on TV, it doesn't mean it's true.")
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To: GSWarrior

I ALWAYS was of the impression that Bush did not get up right away, but finished what he was doing with the kids.

I seem to remember he was lauded for his "cool", not jumping up right away and going off half-cocked.

I guess everything can be spun one way or the other.

I don't see anything wrong with sitting with the kids a few minutes more, to keep things calm and gather my thoughts.


38 posted on 05/19/2004 8:26:40 AM PDT by I still care
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To: Sir Gawain

Roger, Roger, Roger...if you'd told me in September 2001 that almost three years later, somebody, anybody still cared enough that Dubya spent a few extra minutes reading those kids the goat book to write a column about it, I'd have laughed at the thought that anybody'd be that petty. I mean, do people still make fun of you for writing those Russ Meyer breastsploitation flicks?...well, I guess I just did.

Go back to movie reviews, Rog, it's what you know about. And get rid of that simp Roeper. He's no Gene Siskel.


39 posted on 05/19/2004 8:27:11 AM PDT by RichInOC (Two thumbs down.)
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To: Blzbba; ActionNewsBill

What was it he was supposed to do?


40 posted on 05/19/2004 8:27:15 AM PDT by Petronski (They could choose between shame and war: Some chose shame, but got war anyway.)
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