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Buchanan Asks, "What Do We Offer the World?"
WND.com ^ | 05-19-04 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 05/19/2004 2:54:18 AM PDT by Theodore R.

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To: BlueLancer

I didn't know that Cicero had met Bill Clinton--but he sure painted a good picture of him.


181 posted on 05/19/2004 7:43:49 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: vaudine
"women drs and layers"?
182 posted on 05/19/2004 7:45:50 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: af_vet_1981

Other than hateful, your comment is ignorant.

Both--in one sentence. Very good! You've passed Propaganda 101. Himmler would be proud of you.


183 posted on 05/19/2004 7:46:50 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: veronica
>>>>>It's all about the Jews! *Yawn*<<<<<

What nonsense. The only mention Pat makes of Jews in the column is of devout Jews joining devout Christians and Moslems in opposing the sexual revolution of the 1960s. This column is about the rot seeping into American culture.

184 posted on 05/19/2004 7:47:42 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: ninenot

I'm going to rely on you to fix/edit my statements. I go from the gut and you obviously have some formal training/education. I've read many of your comments and haven't found any I disagree with.


185 posted on 05/19/2004 7:50:25 AM PDT by Russ7
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To: azhenfud

Attacking typing or spelling errors diminishes the discussion.."lawyers" is the word inferred and so I did not even notice it.


186 posted on 05/19/2004 7:51:18 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What ignorance. Of course, pornography was not invented by Hugh Hefner. But it is used to be something that was condemned, not celebrated. If you doubt our values have changed, just compare the sexual morality portrayed in the moveis of the '30s, '40s, and '50s and the garbage spewed forth by Hollywood today, where fornication and even adultery are portrayed as the norm.
187 posted on 05/19/2004 7:51:45 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: hchutch
>>>>>My first thoughts after 9/11 were to load up every B-52 and B-1, and send `em over a city with a heavy Taliban presence - and FIREBOMB it. Think what Sir Arthur Harris (aka "Bomber" Harris) did to Dresden.<<<<<

Ah, I see. No wonder you're afraid of someone "imposing" Christian morality on you. You think the mass murder of innocent civilians is A-OK.

188 posted on 05/19/2004 7:54:47 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: MEG33; A. Pole

PJB's article was a bit dramatic, but MEG33's hit on the nuts of the debate which will unfold over the next several months.

That is: SHOULD the US 'establish democracy' in the Middle East, and if it should, HOW should this be done?

"Establishing democracy" does not require the Judaeo-Christian tradition, although it's helpful. The Greeks had democracy long before Christ, and without the help of Moses.

But the US military machine is not really the vehicle for instructions on how to use voting machines, nor for instructions on zoning ordinances, plumbing controls, and highway laws.

The military should be used for what it IS good for, in combination with other assets: eliminating AlQuaeda.


189 posted on 05/19/2004 7:55:44 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Thorin

Interesting how some folks' resentment of Buchanan is so all-consuming that we now have conservatives trying to argue that American culture hasn't significantly declined from what it used to be...all because they don't want to agree with Buchanan!


190 posted on 05/19/2004 7:56:44 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Theodore R.

And to think I once voted for him in the California primary.


191 posted on 05/19/2004 7:57:10 AM PDT by ladyinred (Torture is what happened to Nick Berg!)
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To: Thorin
You think the mass murder of innocent civilians is A-OK.

When the enemy hides behind human shields making it impossible to kill the former without killing the latter, the moral onus for the result falls upon the enemy.

192 posted on 05/19/2004 7:58:56 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: rdb3

If you really think that the US should dedicate a few Divisions and a Fleet to the defense of Israel, and believe that such defense is perpetually in the national interests of the USA...

Then you should send YOUR sons and daughters over there, pronto.

The debate is about the national interests of the US, not the national interests of Israel. Occasionally they are congruent. More often, they are roughly parallel. But they will NEVER be ALWAYS congruent--unless Israel becomes the 51st State.


193 posted on 05/19/2004 7:59:11 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Thorin; Poohbah

I ain't the one backing a "Blame America firster" like Pat Buchanan.

They wanted war - I say we make it so hellish they give up on jihad forever.

War is hell.


194 posted on 05/19/2004 8:00:17 AM PDT by hchutch ("Go ahead. Leave early and beat the traffic. The Milwaukee Brewers dare you." - MLB.com 5/11/04)
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To: Thorin
But it used to be something that was condemned, not celebrated.

Far greater evils used to be celebrated, and are now condemned. Western Civilization is the best on the planet, and continues to improve, the blitherings of nattering nabobs of negativism such as Pat notwithstandings.

195 posted on 05/19/2004 8:03:03 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: Paladin2b

Of course, you can provide documentation of "Pat's 'Love child'" for the edification of FReepers.


196 posted on 05/19/2004 8:03:31 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: A. Pole
And if he were Jewish he would support Sharon.
Naw, he'd call Sharon a sellout and support the "transfer" advocates.

-Eric

197 posted on 05/19/2004 8:05:17 AM PDT by E Rocc (It takes a village to raise a child. The village is Washington. You are the child. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Junior_G
>>>>>Interesting how some folks' resentment of Buchanan is so all-consuming that we now have conservatives trying to argue that American culture hasn't significantly declined from what it used to be...all because they don't want to agree with Buchanan!<<<<<<<

You've hit the nail on the head!

198 posted on 05/19/2004 8:06:15 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Theodore R.

Pat Al-Hamas Buchakazi.


199 posted on 05/19/2004 8:06:20 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: ninenot

What you are talking about here, and what I was responding to which initiated your response to me, are not the same.

This is what we call a non sequitur.

No one, and I mean no one, said or intimated that we should dedicate either a U.S. division or a fleet to Israel.

No one.


200 posted on 05/19/2004 8:07:14 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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