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To: neverdem

As a research virologist, I’m very skeptical of this panel’s conclusions. The feds tell us that mercury emissions from power plants must be lowered, they are dangerously high. The feds tell us that pregnant women should not eat tuna fish because it contains dangerous levels of mercury. And yet, the feds will NOT admit that injecting, on average, 25 micrograms per shot (this is thousands of times higher amounts than could be found in tuna or the air) of mercury directly into the bloodstream of infants for the last 30 yrs just might cause health/neurological problems?

Maybe, just maybe, the panel’s scientific conclusions are “flawed”, and the other studies showing a link between mercury and autism are correct?

Also, don’t trust scientific studies high-lighted in the NYT or WaPo, these are not the best places to obtain factual scientific conclusions.


6 posted on 05/19/2004 5:11:23 AM PDT by PCRit
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To: PCRit
The feds tell us that pregnant women should not eat tuna fish..

Actually, that part is a PETA-pushed agenda.

10 posted on 05/19/2004 5:55:20 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Keep your kids safe; keep W in the White House.)
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To: PCRit

One would think that you, as a research virologist, would know that vaccinations are not injected directly into the child's bloodstream, but rather intramuscularly - almost always in the thigh...


11 posted on 05/19/2004 6:18:27 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: PCRit
I would imagine the conclusion of the panel is based on careful statistical analysis of epidemiological data. Stakes are high in biomedical research, so the relevant mathematics has been developed to a high degree of sophistication.

Now if the vaccine isn't responsible for the increase in autism, what is? I gather one theory is that the age of childbearing has gone up in recent decades. Another theory is that in California, where autism has experienced a particular increase, more engineers are marrying other engineers, and the left-brain engineering personality type is associated with autism.

13 posted on 05/19/2004 6:27:39 AM PDT by megatherium (giant ground sloth)
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To: PCRit
As a research virologist, I’m very skeptical

shhh...as a new member you're probably unaware of the conspiracy to bump off scientists in your area. Not a Freeper conspiracy you understand. Check out some of the old threads.

22 posted on 05/19/2004 7:43:29 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: PCRit; TomB; discostu; longshadow; bonesmccoy
As a research virologist, I’m very skeptical of this panel’s conclusions. The feds tell us that mercury emissions from power plants must be lowered, they are dangerously high. The feds tell us that pregnant women should not eat tuna fish because it contains dangerous levels of mercury. And yet, the feds will NOT admit that injecting, on average, 25 micrograms per shot (this is thousands of times higher amounts than could be found in tuna or the air) of mercury directly into the bloodstream of infants for the last 30 yrs just might cause health/neurological problems?

Maybe, just maybe, the panel’s scientific conclusions are “flawed”, and the other studies showing a link between mercury and autism are correct?

Maybe not...


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Misconceptions about Immunization

Introduction

Immunizations should be part of routine health care obtained through one's personal physician (or in some instances, through one's local health department). Long-lasting protection is available against measles, mumps, German measles (rubella), poliomyelitis, tetanus (lockjaw), whooping cough (pertussis), diphtheria, chickenpox (varicella), Hemophilus influenzae b (Hib), and hepatitis B. Immunization against all of these is recommended for children by the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Academy of Family Practice, and the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

All states now require proof of immunization or other evidence of immunity against some of these diseases for admission to school. However, the requirements vary from state to state, and exemptions may be granted for medical, moral, or religious reasons.

Immunization is also important for adults. Those unprotected against any of the above diseases (except whooping cough) should consult their physicians. Tetanus boosters should be administered every ten years. Flu shots (which give only seasonal protection) and immunization against pneumococcal pneumonia are recommended for high-risk patients, elderly individuals, and certain institutional populations.

The success of vaccination programs in the United States and Europe inspired the 20th-century concept of "disease eradication" -- the idea that a selected disease can be eradicated from all human populations through global cooperation. In 1977, after a decade-long campaign involving 33 countries, smallpox was eradicated worldwide. Polio caused by wild virus has been eradicated from the Western Hemisphere; childhood vaccination levels in the United States are at an all-time high; and disease and death from diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, measles, mumps, rubella and Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) are at or near record lows. In April 1999, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control issued a fact sheet with some interesting statistics about the impact of vaccination on childhood diseases.

  • Average annual number of smallpox cases in 1900-1904: 48,164.
    United States cases per year since 1950: 0.
    Worldwide cases per year since 1977: 0.
  • Average annual number of diphtheria cases in the U.S. in 1920-1922: 175,885.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 1.
  • Average annual number of pertussis cases in 1922-1925: 147,271.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 6,279.
  • Estimated average annual number of tetanus cases in 1922-1926: 1,314.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 34.
  • Average annual number of paralytic polio cases in 1951-1954: 16,316.
    U.S. cases of wild type poliovirus in 1998: 0.
  • Average annual number of measles cases in 1958-1962: 503,282.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 89.
  • The number of mumps cases in 1968: 152,209.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 606.
  • Average annual number of rubella cases in 1966-1968: 47,745.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 345.
  • Estimated average annual number of cases of congenital rubella syndrome in 1966-1968: 823.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 5.
  • Estimated average annual number of Hib cases before vaccine licensure: 20,000.
    U.S. cases in 1998: 54.

Common Misconceptions

At least ten misconceptions can lead parents to question the wisdom of immunizing their children. If you encounter others you would like Quackwatch to address, please contact us.

  • Misconception #1: because of better hygiene and sanitation, diseases had already begun to disappear before vaccines were introduced.
  • Misconception #2: The majority of people who get the disease have been immunized.
  • Misconception #3: There are hot lots of vaccine that have been associated with more adverse events and deaths than others. Parents should find the numbers of these lots and not allow their children to receive vaccines from them.
  • Misconception #4: Vaccines cause many harmful side effects, and even death -- and may cause long-term effects we don't even know about.
  • Misconception #5: DTP vaccine causes sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).
  • Misconception #6: Vaccine-preventable diseases have been virtually eliminated from the United States, so there is no need for my child to be vaccinated.
  • Misconception #7: Giving a child more than one vaccine at a time increases the risk of harmful side effects and can overload the immune system.
  • Misconception #8: There is no good reason to immunize against chickenpox (varicella) because it is a harmless disease
  • Misconception #9: Vaccines cause autism.
  • Misconception #10. Hepatitis B vaccine causes chronic health problems, including multiple sclerosis.
  • Misconception #11. Thimerosal Causes Autism

Opposition by Chiropractors and Naturopaths

Large percentages of chiropractors and naturopaths advise parents not to immunize their children. These actions are irresponsible and can cause serious harm both to patients and to our society as a whole.

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27 posted on 05/19/2004 8:06:07 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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The feds tell us that pregnant women should not eat tuna fish because it contains dangerous levels of mercury. And yet, the feds will NOT admit that injecting, on average, 25 micrograms per shot (this is thousands of times higher amounts than could be found in tuna or the air) of mercury directly into the bloodstream of infants for the last 30 yrs just might cause health/neurological problems?

Interesting, isn't it, that thimerosal has been in vaccines since the 40s, and yet we only see an increase in autism rates since the 80s? And earlier vaccines contianed much more of the preservative than did later versions.

Also,Denmark discontinued the use of thimerosal in 1992, yet autism rates have continued to climb.

Face it, there is no evidence linking autism to thimerosal.

30 posted on 05/19/2004 8:24:41 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: PCRit

Thanks for your post. I will stand beside you on this issue.


37 posted on 05/19/2004 9:38:10 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: PCRit
Also, don’t trust scientific studies high-lighted in the NYT or WaPo, these are not the best places to obtain factual scientific conclusions.

Where else would you find medical and scientific information for the general public? They usually refer to articles in peer reviewed jourals such as that can be found in the current issues the Journal of the American Medical Association, the New England Journal of Medicine, Science, Nature, etc. Do you think the general public is prepared for the professional literature typically written by specialists with doctoral degrees? Do you think think the Times and WaPo are part of a cabal with the Institue of Medicine?

63 posted on 05/19/2004 3:40:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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I know of 2 kids who 'mysteriously' developed epilepsy after receiving their first DPT shots. The kids showed no signs of epilepsy or brain disfunction before the shots. And of course, since that vaccine is a series of shots....the kids got worse and now are suffering unimaginable consequences.

But, of course, it HAS to be something besides the DPT shots that caused it..... /sarcasm

83 posted on 05/20/2004 10:39:51 AM PDT by BossLady (What do your choices cost you????)
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