"350,000 Albanians are worth more than 250,000 Serbs Mo"
Posted on 05/18/2004 8:49:57 AM PDT by Jane_N
If the two sides one is Christian who have never blown up in city in the US, and the other side is fanatical Moslems who are blowing up anything and everything that they can get their filthy hands on to kill Americans, then you have to be an idiot, trator or both not to choose sides.
I accept your concession.
I don't comprehend how going around in circles is helpful - I've already seen the material you posted the first time around, commented upon it, and am not partial to repeats.
There were 350,000 Kosovar Albanian refugees in Kosovo before we started bombing. The OSCE and other organizations have made available too much information regarding the situation in Kosovo leading up to our bombing campaing for you cling to your German intel reports and court opinions with any hope of convincing anyone save yourself and our resident chorus of Serb nationalist losers (literal). Those 350,000 people fled their homes to escape Serb persecution, and to put forth the premise that there did not exist in Kosovo prior to 1999 widespread, systematic repression of the Kosovo Albanian population is to simply stick one's head up one's behind - regardless of whether one is looking to deny Kosovar Albanian asylum requests or not.
So in summation, Jane, you can continue to ignore the reality, as represented by those 350,000 refugees, for as long as you want, though it may be better for you to come up with an alibi for their being driven from their homes - they were having a picnic, perhaps?
Just don't be surprised when some jackass on the other side of the ethnic divide turns around and throws your rationale back in your face as applied to Kosovo's Serbian refugees.
is that you don't have the first clue about supporting your assertions with hard facts - you're supposed to be proving that the local judges didn't issue any warrants, not highlighting those cases where the internationals did.
You've placed yourself in a position where you pretty much have to review all the case histories of the arrests made in response to the March riots in order to prove your case.
And we both know you're incapable of walking that walk to support your talk, aren't we.
Besides, those Albanians who claimed to have zero papers, always would be able to present some evidence of "Serbian, Yugoslavian" citizenship. Isn't that right, Curly?
Why accept those figures, because NATO said so? Or, we take the Serbian Govt numbers?
I think Larry is more appropriate, he was the real stupid one. Curly, at least, possessed some humorous charm about him.
One can not rely on NATO for accuracy, look at their collateral damage record as an indicator. The Hague court tried to use "statistics" experts to bolster their bogus claim of 10,000 dead/missing Albanians from the conflict, and these claims were based on "missing" paperwork.
Just out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to know how many people "emmigrated" from Albania during the 90's? I think it would be interesting to see some statistics from this period of unrest and civil disorder in Albania and see how many of them actually "moved" to Former Yugoslavia.
legally or illegally?
“The fighting caused additional displacement both within Kosovo and across its borders”;
“So far, the fighting in Kosovo has displaced about 400,000, according to UNHCR.”
No mention of “genocide” as a cause, and the only “ethnic cleansing” noted in the piece was by Albanians against Serbs: “The souring of negotiations also brought with it Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) attacks aimed at trying to ‘cleanse’ Kosovo of its ethnic Serb civilian population.” Looks like we bombed the side that was undergoing the ethnic cleansing, not the perps thereof – but we both know the ethnic cleansing canard had nothing to do with the bombing, right Hopster?
In short, your entire premise is that the existence of refugees reflects “ethnic cleansing or genocide”. The report you cite tells the exact opposite story than what you claim and corroborates rather than refutes Bo’s statement. Given that, you might want to work on your reading comprehension skills before pulling your fake righteous schtick on Jane.
"350,000 Albanians are worth more than 250,000 Serbs Mo"
"legally or illegally?"
Would both be too much to ask for? ;)
The name Bo is rather common, but mainly among those born during the 40's and 50's. In other words it's not so popular today for kids to be named Bo. I asked my husband if it was a shortened version of something else and apparently it isn't, nor is it a nickname. By the way the swedish verb "to live" is "bo" so maybe the Bo as a name also means "to live".
You can't ask someone to prove a negative, Hoplite. Proving that something isn't true is usually not possible. If you think something is true, you try to prove that it is, and if you cannot, then it's probably not. So the onus of proof falls on you. Get cracking, show me evidence that Albanians have made any effort to chastise KLA members who committed crimes against Serbs, the way Serbs did to punish Serbian soldiers suspected of crimes against Albanians.
This is one of those "put up or shut up" moments you've gotten yourself into here, Hoppie. Kindly choose a course of action.
Even if that's true, it doesn't prove ethnic cleansing. There was fighting going on between the army and the rebels. Removing civilians from the danger zone (forcefully if they resist) is what any country would have done in Serbia's situation. It's for their own safety. Of course these Albanians probably went and told every reporter that they were "forced from their homes".
Hmm... Help me out here, Gael - my reading comprehension skills aren't apparently all I thought they were.
Either that, or you're still suffering from that particularly Serb version of HUA syndrome I've been treated to ever since wandering into these Balkan threads on FR.
What happened in Ivaja was ethnic cleansing. If you want to call it fighting, then you're just conforming to the idiocy endemic on these threads, aren't you.
By early March the VJ and police were carrying out acts of deliberate destruction and looting sometimes in plain sight of the OSCE-KVM, and the mission was recording such destruction, looting and pillage in many locations in Kosovo. source
Don't worry Gael - it wasn't ethnic cleansing, it's all some misunderstanding or conspiracy by Serbia's enemies to make her look bad.
Yeah, that's the ticket.
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