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"Tiny" Girl Stands Tall in West Texas Family Tragedy
Lubbock, TX, Avalanche-Journal ^ | 05-18-04 | Smith, P. Christine

Posted on 05/18/2004 5:58:46 AM PDT by Theodore R.

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1 posted on 05/18/2004 5:58:47 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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bump for lead in Pm issue


2 posted on 05/18/2004 6:00:18 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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3 posted on 05/18/2004 6:12:06 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........"LIBERATE YOUR INNER BONOBO".........)
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I wonder if seat belts would have helped any of them? Maybe the infant but maybe they'd have been pinned in and worse off.


4 posted on 05/18/2004 6:16:30 AM PDT by FITZ
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You have to marvel at the strength of one little girl. Her wisdom exceeds that of many adults. I'll pray for her.


5 posted on 05/18/2004 6:24:22 AM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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Sad.


6 posted on 05/18/2004 6:24:29 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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God Bless and heal this family.
Wonderful little 6 year old hero sprang into action.
Bless and watch over them all.
Amen


7 posted on 05/18/2004 6:24:53 AM PDT by buffyt (Kerry is a Flop Flipper, he Flips Flop, all the Flop that he Flips, is well Flipped Flop!)
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Lumps on Michael's neck raised cancer concerns, but after a series of doctor visits and medical tests, the boy had been given a clean bill of health just two weeks ago, Christina Hinojosa said.

My Michael had that in 1990. I was afraid it was cancer, it scared me to death. We had just moved back to the Texas Gulf Coast from San Marino near Los Angeles... he was having an allergic reaction to all the mosquitoes and fireant bites he was getting here, that we didn't have in LA. They were some pretty big, hard knots on the back of his neck. Doc said it was swollen lymph nodes.


8 posted on 05/18/2004 6:26:59 AM PDT by buffyt (Kerry is a Flop Flipper, he Flips Flop, all the Flop that he Flips, is well Flipped Flop!)
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Carseats and seatbelts save lives.


9 posted on 05/18/2004 6:29:11 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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Maybe the infant but maybe they'd have been pinned in and worse off.

Many, many more people are killed being thrown through a windshield or ejected than are killed inside a vehicle. I have friends who are cops and firemen who have never seen someone pinned in by a seatbelt, but have picked up lots of dead babies (usually Hispanic) off the road after they went through the windshield.

Anyone travelling with a baby not restrained should do hard time. There is no excuse for it.

10 posted on 05/18/2004 6:36:26 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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Yes --- poor little girl --- and how sad for the kids to have to see the baby like that. It seems maybe if the parents had bothered to put the seat belts on, this didn't have to be so tragic.


11 posted on 05/18/2004 6:36:47 AM PDT by FITZ
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>Carseats and seatbelts save lives.

Absolutely! That two year old most likely wouldn't have died had he been in a car seat. How did four children and two adults fit in a pickup truck with seat belts?


12 posted on 05/18/2004 6:39:07 AM PDT by sandbar
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But there are some accidents that are worse if you have the seat belt on --- maybe the ones where the vehicle catches on fire.


13 posted on 05/18/2004 6:41:11 AM PDT by FITZ
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You think that maybe a farm laborer just might be a bit short on funds to own the type of vehicle that could properly restrain six people?

These are poor folks trying to do well and making do as best they can, it would be wonderful if everyone had the money to buy new proper vehs but folks there is a real world out there.

God bless this family in their time of tragedy.
14 posted on 05/18/2004 6:42:35 AM PDT by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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Pickup truck. Max 3 seatbelts. No car seat. 6 people. Doesn't Texas have laws about seatbelts and carseats? This is sad, doubly so because it could have been prevented. Our local hospitals lend car seats (at no cost) to those that need them.


15 posted on 05/18/2004 6:53:44 AM PDT by blu
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But there are some accidents that are worse if you have the seat belt on --- maybe the ones where the vehicle catches on fire.

Sure, you could be unconcious in the vehicle with it on fire, but you have to remember that getting thrown out during an accident is like jumping out of a tall building, energy-wise. Plus the car has a tendency to roll over on you.

Talk to any firefighter or policeman. They will tell you that not buckling your seat belt on the odd chance of being pinned in is a sucker's bet. A seatbelt can be removed with a pocketknife, and there are usually going to be people around an accident.

16 posted on 05/18/2004 6:54:16 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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>But there are some accidents that are worse if you have >the seat belt on --- maybe the ones where the vehicle >catches on fire.

Of course there are! But those are far fewer than the ones where someone is thrown from the vehicle. I work in insurance and see statistics all the time. If a person is so incoherent that they can't remove thier seatbelt to escape a fire, odds are they are going to be incapacitated to the point that they couldn't crawl out even without a seat belt. And if they are thrown from a burning vehicle, the odds are still not in thier favor to live through the impact of the fall.


17 posted on 05/18/2004 6:57:08 AM PDT by sandbar
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You think that maybe a farm laborer just might be a bit short on funds to own the type of vehicle that could properly restrain six people?

Being paralyzed from the waist down isn't going to help matters.

If these people were motivated, they could address the issue. A lot of them opt for one newer pickup rather than two older vehicles, a pickup and a family vehicle.

18 posted on 05/18/2004 6:58:20 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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>You think that maybe a farm laborer just might be a bit >short on funds to own the type of vehicle that could >properly restrain six people?

I certainly do appreciate that this family didn't have alot of money, but I also realize that a van, or station wagon costs just as much as a pickup.


19 posted on 05/18/2004 6:58:27 AM PDT by sandbar
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I wonder if seat belts would have helped any of them?

Yes. The number of people who are thrown free vs. safely ensconsed is like 98%-2%

This vehicle was overloaded, period.

But my heart goes out to the family. This is a very hard life lesson. The father will and should feel guilt for the rest of his life.

20 posted on 05/18/2004 7:01:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (This is a tag: </> This is a Line ---------)
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