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Arutz Sheva ^ | 5-17-04 | Naomi Ragen

Posted on 05/17/2004 2:10:56 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: justanotherday
The majority of FReepers are Christian. That is why I thought of a Christian denomination.

So, do tell, are you a re-tread? And if so, let us know who you were and why you were nuked.

41 posted on 05/17/2004 6:23:19 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Depending on the naighborhood, Ralph's and Trader Joe's usually have a decent kosher department.

For foods from Israel, and especially wines, try Elat Market down on Robertson, or Alef Market.

42 posted on 05/17/2004 6:28:25 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: taxcontrol

...My thoughts too. Destroyer and Rebuilder, maybe?


43 posted on 05/17/2004 6:41:17 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Just last week my husband got into a terrible fight with a Jewish friend who assailed my husband in the street and followed him into a restaurant, chiding, "Yah, yah yah! Your President is toast...etc., etc." The man just would not quit, and my husband finally exploded and called him ungrateful and said some of the same things that I just wrote.

Many Jews in this country are "culturally" liberal - their parents voted Dem, there parents' parents voted Dem, and their parents' parents' parents were card-carrying communists back in the days when intelligent, sane people could still delude themselves about the true nature of communism.

They typically hold various unexamined stereotypes about Republicans, and getting them to reexamine those stereotypes and think rationally about what the Democrat party really stands for has to first overcome generations of cultural affiliation.

My wife falls into this category - she's registered as a Dem, but is really what you could call a "DINO."

She cried when Reagan was elected in 1984, but we've been married 11 years, and she recently cast her first vote for a Republican and against a Democrat in the California recall election. Tom McClintock didn't win, but it was a big step for her. She doesn't like to shoot, but she's pro-gun. She's been known to concur that John Kerry is an idiot.

It's a long road, but she's walking it. It probably started when Columbine and my discovery of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership became my wake-up call for defending Second Amendment rights - I led, she came along.

Also, check out the Republican Jewish Coalition.

44 posted on 05/17/2004 6:42:20 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: gargoyle

No, see some of the other comments. Shiva is '7' in Hebrew. When you 'sit shiva', you are observing the traditional mourning period immediately following burial.


45 posted on 05/17/2004 6:46:29 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Bella_Bru
"The majority of FReepers are Christian. That is why I thought of a Christian denomination."

OK, I accept that. So why would you attack Christian friends?

"So, do tell, are you a re-tread? And if so, let us know who you were and why you were nuked."

Not sure what a "retread is". Nor am I sure why you're allowed to post on FR based on FR guidelines that restrict attacks based on religion.

Need your help here, Bella: Is your wisdom based on knowledge, or your longevity on FR? Just curious.

46 posted on 05/17/2004 6:47:06 PM PDT by justanotherday (I'm not a Baptist, but I play one on TV)
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To: adam_az

...Thanks, for the explaination. My apologies for any ignorance or disrespect...


47 posted on 05/17/2004 6:48:11 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: gargoyle
Counting in Hebrew

The word "seven" is "sheh-vah":

This is the derivation of the word "sabbath," from "shabbat" in the Ashkenazi pronunciation, the seventh day of creation. This is also the root of the Hebrew word for cessation, or resting.

48 posted on 05/17/2004 6:50:24 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Bella_Bru

...Thanks, have been informed...


49 posted on 05/17/2004 6:50:55 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: justanotherday
LOL. I suggest you steer clear of the Religion Forum, if you think religious debate is a no-no. It's a virtual slugfest over there.

And I was not attacking Christianity. I merely said I'd never want to give up my traditions for the ones practiced by the majority of Americans. You'll need thicker skin than that to last around here.

50 posted on 05/17/2004 6:53:06 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: justanotherday

And feel free to hit abuse. But those that try to lecture about posting rules are usually re-treads. A re-tread is someone who has been banned and decided they were coming back anyway.


51 posted on 05/17/2004 6:54:01 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: justanotherday
Nor am I sure why you're allowed to post on FR based on FR guidelines that restrict attacks based on religion.

Tell you what. Why don't you go over to the Religious Forum and make yourself a list of everyone whom you think is violating guidelines you are very newly acquainted with. Then FReepmail Jim Rob. See if you can get your list banned.

And because you are so quick to point out that someone is 'attacking' another religion, I expect you'll be on the Islam threads wagging your finger, right?

52 posted on 05/17/2004 6:57:03 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Bella_Bru
"the ones practiced by the majority of Americans. You'll need thicker skin than that to last around here."

Sorry Bella, I don't accept that. I've seen posters banned for less inflammatory posts than yours.

In your post you singled out Baptists, not Christians.

With regard to giving up your traditions, "as ones practiced by the majority", it's the freedom to practice religion that makes the US a great country, wouldn't you agree?

PS, Please tell me the poster who asked you to give up your traditions, I'll fight them along side you.

53 posted on 05/17/2004 7:04:25 PM PDT by justanotherday (There's no thread like a rethread.)
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To: justanotherday

Seen others get banned? Lurked for a while?


54 posted on 05/17/2004 7:09:02 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: gargoyle

No disrespect! I ask dumb questions on threads about Christian stuff all the time... I'd rather learn something than continue to be ignorant, though, and you asked in the same spirit.

My most recent dumb question - I asked after attending a wedding at a Catholic church. I asked what the fold-down knee pads in front of the seats were for. :) I had never been inside a Catholic church before.


55 posted on 05/17/2004 7:14:01 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: SJackson
I'm asking you to please go out a buy something from Israel. If you can't find it in your stores, you can find it on-line, I'm sure.

I will buy something from Israel.

56 posted on 05/17/2004 7:18:58 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The BushAdm has apologized for abuse of suspected terrorists-Has the Arab world apologized for 9/11?)
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To: adam_az; SJackson; Bella_Bru

Thanks for the links everyone. I googled:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=purchase+Israeli+products&btnG=Search

Unfortunately I found a recipe site, and went off track. I did find Osem and Telma products at Ralphs, when I went to get some groceries. For this purpose, I think it's better to order direct from companies based in Israel.

You know what? It's easier to boycott the French, than support Israel. I'm on a budget, but I found a site that has spices, hot peppers, and tea at a reasonable price. I'm thinking of throwing together a gift basket for my SIL's birthday, as he loves anything scorching hot. This site also kicks back money from all online purchases.

There's something else I found while searching. People have been organizing boycotts of Israeli made products for some time now. I didn't know that. I didn't know just how bad Israel's economy is, either.


57 posted on 05/17/2004 7:32:15 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Bella_Bru
"Religious Forum and make yourself a list of everyone whom you think is violating guidelines you are very newly acquainted with. Then FReepmail Jim Rob. See if you can get your list banned."

What list?

58 posted on 05/17/2004 7:33:11 PM PDT by justanotherday (There's no thread like a rethread.)
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To: Bella_Bru
"Seen others get banned? Lurked for a while?"

I just call them as I see them.

59 posted on 05/17/2004 7:35:15 PM PDT by justanotherday (There's no thread like a rethread.)
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To: Bella_Bru
"With regard to giving up your traditions, "as ones practiced by the majority", it's the freedom to practice religion that makes the US a great country, wouldn't you agree?"

Please answer my question. Thanks in advance!

60 posted on 05/17/2004 7:41:56 PM PDT by justanotherday (There's no thread like a rethread.)
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