Ummm pretty angry there KJ , I am not the one that misrepresented your words.
We say the Mormons are not Christians because their god has different attributes.. The JW's are not Christians because they define god with different attributes.
I did not say that we worship different Gods , I said it could be argued , and it could.
God is the sum total of all His attributes.
THE ATTRIBUTES OF GOD
(Scripture Study)
1) Personal:
(God is a self-conscious Being capable of thought, will, and interaction with others.)
OT: Gen 1:1-31; Exod 20:1-17; Job 12:13; Ps 2:4; Prov 3:19f; Isa 55:8f.
NT: Matt 6:1-15; 2Cor 1:3f; 1Thes 4:3,7.
2) Creator:
(The whole of creation came into existence through the will and power of God.)
OT: Gen 1:1-31; Neh 9:5f; Job 38:1-41; Ps 19:1; 24:1f; 33:6-9; 89:11f; 95:6f; 102:25-27; Isa 44:24; 45:18; Zech 12:1.
NT: Acts 14:15; Rom 1:20; Heb 11:3; Rev 4:11.
3) Life Giver:
(All of life was created by and is dependent on God.)
OT: Gen 2:7; Ps 36:9; Job 12:10; 33:3; Dan 5:23.
NT: Acts 17:25; 1Tim 6:13; Rev 22:1.
4) Spirit/ Invisible:
(God's existence can be immaterial, non-physical, and is distinct from His creation.)
OT: Exod 20:4; Dt 4:11; Job 9:11; 23:8f; 35:14.
NT: John 1:18; 4:24 (cp. Luke 24:39); 6:46; Col 1:15; 1Tim 1:17; 6:16; Heb 11:27; 1John 4:12.
5) Omnipresent:
(God is present in all places at all times.)
OT: 1Sam 2:3; 1Ki 8:27; Ps 73:23-28; 139:7f; Jer 23:23f.
NT: John 4:20-24; Acts 7:48-50; 17:26-28; Eph 4:6; Heb 13:5f.
6) Omniscient:
(God knows all things.)
OT: 1Ki 8:37-39; Job 34:21f; 37:16; 38:1-3; Ps 10:11-15; 33:13-15; 59:5-9; 94:4-11; 139:1-6,11f,15-18; 147:4f; Prov 15:3; Eccl 12:13f; Isa 29:15f; 40:12-14,25-28; Jer 16:17; 32:19; Zech 4:10.
NT: Matt 6:7f; 10:30; Acts 15:18; Rom 11:33; Col 2:3; Heb 4:13; 1John 3:20.
7) Knows the Future:
(God's omniscience includes knowledge of all that will come to pass before it occurs.)
OT: Gen 15:13f; Exod 3;19; Deut 31:15-21; 1Ki 13:1f (see 2Ki 23:15f); 1Ki 14:12f,17f; Josh 6:2 (see 1Ki 16:34); Ps 139:4, 16; Isa 40:12-14,27-31; 41:21-24; 44:6-8; 48:3-5; 65:24; Jer 1:5; 32:3-5 (cp. Ezek 12:13; 2Ki 25:5-7); Dan 2:28.
NT: Matt 2:4-6; Eph 1:3f; Acts 3:18; 15:16-18; 1Cor 15:3f; Rev 13:8; 17:8.
8) Omnipotent:
(God can do all things capable of being done with an unlimited amount of power.)
OT: Gen 17:1; 18:14; Deut 32:39; 2Chr 20:6; Ps 33:6-11; 115:3; 135:6; Isa 14:24-27; 40:28; 43:13; Jer 32:17,27.
NT: Matt 19:26; Luke 1:37; 18:27; Rom 8:31; Rev 19:6.
9) Sovereign:
(God is absolute Lord over His creation and all that occurs therein.)
OT: 1Sam 2:6-10; Lam 3:37-39; Job 9:12 (cp. 23:1-7); 34:24-30; 36:22f; 37:20; 38:1-4; 40:1-8; 42:1-6; Ps 2:1-12; 33:10f; 37:12f; 103:19; 135:6f; Isa 40:12-17,22f; 45:9f; 64:8: Dan 4:35.
NT: Matt 10:29; Acts 5:38f; 17:24-26; 18:9f; Rom 9:20; Jam 4:13-15.
10) Incomprehensible:
(God cannot be fully known.)
OT: Job 9:10; 11:7-9; 36:26; Ps 139:6; 145:3; Isa 40:28; 55:8f.
NT: Rom 11:33-36; 1Cor 2:11,16; Eph 3:9; Phil 4:7.
But God can be know truly: Jer 9:23f; Dan 11:32; John 17:3; 1Cor 13:9-12; Eph 1:9; 1John 5:20.
11) Eternal:
(God had no beginning and will have no end.)
OT: Gen 1:1; 21:33; Exod 3:14; Deut 32:40; 33:27; Job 36:26; Ps 10:16; 41:13; 90:2; 93:2; 102:27; 106:48; 117:1f; Isa 40:28; 43:13; 44:6; 57:15; Hab 1:12.
NT: Acts 15;18; Rom 1:20; 16:25f; 1Tim 1:17; 6:16; Heb 4:3; 11:3; Rev 1:4; 11:17; 21:6.
12) Self-Existent:
(God has life within Himself; His existence is not dependent on any other)
OT: Gen 1:1; Exod 3:14.
NT: John 5:26; Acts 17:24f; 1Tim 1:17; 6:16.
13) Immutable:
(God cannot change in his nature, character, or dependability.)
OT: Gen 8:22; 9:8-13; Numb 23:19; 1Sam 15:29; Lam 3:22f; Ps 33:1; 89:34; 102:24-27; Isa 40:28; Mal 3:6.
NT: Rom 11:29; 2Tim 2:11-13; Titus 1:1-3; Heb 6:13-20; 10:19-23; Jam 1:17.
14) Perfect:
(God is flawless and complete; He does not lack anything or have any moral imperfection.)
OT: Gen 18:14; Deut 3:3f; 2Sam 22:31-33; Job 21:22; Ps 19:7.
NT: Matt 5:48; Rom 12:2; 1John 3:3.
15) Incomparable:
(God is superior over all in His essence, character, and actions and is worthy of all praise.)
OT: Exod 15:11; Deut 33:26; 2Sam 7:22; Ps 35:10; 50:21; 71:19; 86:8-10; 97:9; 113:4-6; Isa 40:25; Jer 10:6-16.
NT: 1Tim 1:17; 6:15f; Jude 25; Rev 4:8-11.
16) Good:
(The moral character of God)
OT: Exod 34:6; 1Chr 16:34; Ps 25:8; 34:8-10; 135:3; Lam 3:25; Nah 1:7.
NT: Matt 7:11; Acts 14:17; Rom 2:4; 2Thes 1:11.
17) Holy:
(God is separate from all else, especially from all evil.)
OT: Exod 3:5; 19:10-21: 20:18-21; 33:18-23; Lev 19:2; Deut 5:23-27; 1Sam 2:2; 6:20; Ps 22:3; Isa 6:1-5; 57:15; Jer 5:22; Hab 2:20.
NT: Jam 1:13; 1Pet 1:15f; Rev 3:7; 4:8-10; 15:3f.
18) Righteous and Just:
(God's nature and actions are always morally right.)
OT: Gen 18:25; Exod 9:27; Ps 11:7; 19:8f; 33:4f; 89:14; 97:2-6; 111:3; 119:142,160,172; 129:4.
NT: Matt 6:33; Acts 17:30f; Rom 1:16f; 3:21-26; 3:21-26; 7:12; Jam 1:13; 1John 1:5,9; 3:7; Rev 15:3; 16:4-7; 19:2.
19) Judge:
(God is the final determiner of what is morally right or wrong; all people are answerable to Him and His standards.)
OT: Gen 18:25; Deut 32:34-43; 1Sam 2:3,10; 1Chr 16:33; Ps 7:11; 9:7f; 10:8-18; 10:8-18; 50:1-6; 58:10f; 82:8; 94:2; 96:13; 98:9; Isa 66:14-17.
NT: Rom 1:32; 2:2-5; 10:16; Heb 10:30; 12:23; 13:4; Rev 20:11-15.
20) Wrath:
(God's moral character leads Him to judge and punish all unrighteousness.)
OT: Exod 15:7-10; 22:22-24; Deut 4:24; 7:10; 32:21f; Isa 13:11-13; Jer 10:10.
NT: Matt 3:7; Luke 12:2-5; John 3:36; Rom 1:18; 2:5; 5:9; Eph 2:3; Col 3:6; 5:6; 1Thes 1:10; Heb 10:26-31; 12:29; Rev 11:16-19; 15:1,7f; 16:1.
Immediate judgments: Gen 38:7-10; Lev 10:1-3 (cp. 16:13); Numb 16:1-49; 21:4-9; 2Sam 6:1-13; Ezek 18:4; Luke 13:1-5; Acts 5:1-11; 12:20-23 (cp. Gen 2:16f; 3:1-6; 5:5).
21) Grace, Mercy and Love:
(God's dealings with His people are based on His goodness, generosity, concern, and compassion; instead of on what we deserve.)
OT: Deut 7:7-9; 10:15-18; 33:12; 1Chr 16:34; Neh 9:17; Ps 63:3; 86:15; 100:5; 103:8; 119:64; 145:8f; Isa 63:7-9; Jer 31:3; Lam 3:22-26; Dan 9:9; Jonah 3:10-4:2.
NT: John 3:16; Rom 5:8-11; Eph 1:6f; 2:4-10; Titus 3:3-7; 1John 4:9f; 5:11-13; Rev 21:4.
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The fact is I did not "twist" the scripture on the sermon of the mount. You just did not like what it says.
Jesus never attempted to keep all men without exception as disciple. We see Him often take his disciples aside . In fact in John 6 we see he literally drove some away .
I showed you commentaries by respected men that have the same observation.
I always find it interesting that Calvinists are "accused" of forcing scripture.
To believe that one must ignore clearly stated teachings by Jesus , and Paul that address being chosen , being called , being drawn , being predestined .
There is no scripture that tells us we must "choose" Jesus to be saved. That is an invention of men.
It does tell us that no man can come unless the Father draw him and that Jesus would not lose one that the Father draws .
Pretty plain that the Father does not draw all men or all men would be saved.
Jesus made no exceptions. He never taught that men could draw themselves .
I had said a couple of times in the preceding posts that I considered you a brother in Christ , yet you proceeded to say that I say those that are not calvinists are not saved. I have in fact always said just the opposite .
But it is easier to discredit me than the argument I make , I understand that .
I say again for the official FR record.
I was saved as a Catholic, I was saved as a Wesleyan and I am saved as a Calvinist.
No one has to hold to reform doctrine to be saved.
If I was harsh in my demand for an apology I am sorry, I just get tired of being accused of saying things I never said. I do say enough to get my self in hot water with my words , without more being added to them