[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Here's the deal from my perspective. I love the debate. It's fascinating to me. I was thinking your posts were great and then I was thinking Kj's posts were great too. It is a healthy debate. But when you guys start with the "you are twisting scripture" and the "your god is not trustworthy" stuff then you ruin it. You are both very well versed in Scripture and seem to be very faithful Christians. This theological point, while fascinating and important, is not a matter of heaven or hell. The Bible also speaks about how we are to treat one another.

Again, I love both of your posts. There is a lot of truth in all of them. I just don't like it when it becomes personal or hurtful. It is probably unintentional, but that's the way it reads to me.

[RnMomof7]

Here's the deal from my perspective. I love the debate. It's fascinating to me. I was thinking your posts were great and then I was thinking Kj's posts were great too. It is a healthy debate. But when you guys start with the "you are twisting scripture" and the "your god is not trustworthy" stuff then you ruin it. You are both very well versed in Scripture and seem to be very faithful Christians. This theological point, while fascinating and important, is not a matter of heaven or hell. The Bible also speaks about how we are to treat one another.

If God is mutable , and He can and DOES change his mind , would you say you can trust His promises?

If you punch in on google The attributes of God , it is my guess that most will list Immutable and omniscient . Those are Characteristics of God that have been taught for generations by the church .

It is not a matter of heaven or hell unless God really can and will change his mind in the future right :>) It goes to our ability to have faith and to know that God is always faithful to His word.

As Christians we hold probably 95% of our soteriology in common . The difference in the 5% can be summed up in this discussion in some ways .

My Church does not demand that members be Calvinists , however it does demand that we all hold that 95% in common. Those are the areas questioned when you meet with the elders.

If God had truly intended to destroy Israel , if we look at it from a non Calvinist perspective , He would have foreseen the rebellion of Israel and He would never had purposed to have the line of the Savior come through David . Moses held God accountable for His promises .