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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Actually, I find that the worst watering down takes place in the suit-and-tie churches. Most of the kids out there like those described in the article tend to be motivated and earnestly want to learn the whole of the Scripture--and more importantly, they want to apply it to their lives in a way that most of the mainline once-a-weekers just don't. I'll grant that they tend to lack wisdom, but hey, they're young.

I could give examples (and in fact I did in my earlier post), but if you're just blocked against the idea of adapting the presentation of a message to a culture, you won't hear them anyway.

347 posted on 05/18/2004 7:15:20 PM PDT by Buggman ("You can't tell a deaf Chinaman anything by whispering in French." --Protagoras)
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To: Buggman

Like I said before, I am not totally blocked to the concept. But most of what I have personally witnessed is not Christianity at all. It is a phony, feel-good substitute. It is very possible that we are just talking about two different things. Maybe, maybe not. But I am unimpressed with Relevant, Hollywood Jesus, and other similar stuff. The message is lost in the packaging. Kids these days are not nearly as dumb as everyone seems to think they are. They can understand truth in its purest form, and they can actually enjoy worship and teaching that is not dumbed down for them. They will be exactly what we expect them to be. If we act like they can't learn anything without movies and video games then they will adapt to that expectation. But they are wonderful kids and capable of much more. I think parents and adults in charge often just do not know how to talk and relate to kids, so they cop out with just a bunch of gimicky babysitting style flashy junk. It's how they've raised their kids and it's how they relate to kids at church. I think it is sad.


349 posted on 05/18/2004 8:25:51 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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I want to point out something I do think is positive. I watched a video produced by Stephen Baldwin (brother to Alec) that was about a Christian skateboarder. The kid was amazing. All the while he was demonstrating his skills, he was alwo talking about his faith. It was great. But that is very different from using secular movies as "parables" when what you are really doing is advertising for Hollywood and allowing atheists to be church leaders. Also, the skating movie wasn't made for a church audience. It was a general sport interest video, but the guy talking was also a Christian sharing his faith. Now that's an example of taking the gospel message to others appropriately. I am all for that. What I am firmly opposed to is importing secularism and new-age mush into the church.


354 posted on 05/19/2004 5:27:39 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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