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And, you know... I've been in the meetings where the staff complains about the old people there. Because you know, they aren't on board with what we want to do here. We've got 1200 people over the age of 55. Many of them have been there for 20+ years. It is our job to continue to edify them and support them, and minister to them.

I don't think it's those old peoples job or calling of the Lord to accept any whim that the church decides to follow. I just don't. But most staffs in most churches in this day and age do. And most will tell you that the thing that really keeps their church from "breaking out" whatever that means, is because of all the senior adults in the church.

It is too bad that the staff of your church can not see that maybe God is using those old Saints to warn them

A smart man will open a church right down the street , and preach the full gospel every Sunday , pretty soon your leaders will not have to worry about the interference of the oldsters.

Do you understand the compromise of the gospel that is done in Willowcreek to have that growth?

Oh yeah... as you read farther in this thread the things I've said... that will become evident I think.