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To: supercat
People, including Mr. Coors, need to state widely enough that the media can't ignore it, that the Lautenberg Abomonation disarms people who have not been convicted, nor in some cases even accused, of any crime. That is so throughly wrong on so many levels it's ridiculous. Too bad the Spineless Supremes refused to even consider that.

I agree. The point is that it also disarms folks who have been. By not distinguishing, Coors opened himself to unprincipled ads by Salazar that mischaracterize his position (what other kind do rats run?).

20 posted on 05/16/2004 7:30:40 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker; supercat
Too bad the Spineless Supremes refused to even consider that.

Could either of you refresh my memory? Was a case based on the Lautenberg amendment challenged on its ex post facto provision, but SCOTUS declined to grant "cert", i.e. refused to hear the case?

21 posted on 05/16/2004 9:51:04 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: ModelBreaker
I agree. The point is that it also disarms folks who have been. By not distinguishing, Coors opened himself to unprincipled ads by Salazar that mischaracterize his position (what other kind do rats run?).

Though Congress had no authority to do that either. Ex post facto legislation and all that. The notion, however, that someone's rights should be taken away without them even being accused, much less convicted, of any crime should be chilling to anyone worthy of being called an "American".

BTW, I also wish some politician (let me know if Ron Paul has--I'd be impressed) would come out and say that the Founders recognized that it would be necessary from time to time to amend the Constitution, and provided two means for doing so:

  1. Both branches of Congress approve the change by supermajority vote, then 3/4 of the state legislatures approve the change by whatever method their individual constitutions direct.
  2. A constitutional convention is called by 3/4 of the state.
I don't think they intended to allow what is my now the most common method:
  1. Have the President and a simple majority of Senators appoint at leat five men to the Supreme Court who will say that the Constitution says what they want it to say, rather than what it actually says.
The Constitution was written in plain language so that ordinary people could read and understand it. The people who claim that it's an intricate document that can only really be understood by the Men in Black Robes are lying. Unfortunately, their lie has been so often repeated that it's become accepted as truth.
24 posted on 05/16/2004 12:13:27 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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