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Rumsfeld's Vietnam Syndrome
The Weekly Standard ^ | May 24, 2004 | Jeffrey Bell

Posted on 05/15/2004 11:51:20 AM PDT by RWR8189

Will casualty-aversion cost Bush the election?

FOR GEORGE W. BUSH, it would be bizarre if the most loyal and gifted member of his cabinet were to be the instrument of his defeat in November 2004. Recent developments on the Iraq front of the war on terror make such thoughts about Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld harder and harder to put aside.

No, it isn't about the prison scandal. Bad as this is, a successful execution of the president's Iraq strategy will in the end render Abu Ghraib an ugly sideshow.

The danger to the Bush presidency lies in the decision to pull the Marines back from attacking Sunni terrorists in Falluja, and the growing probability that similar avoidance of U.S. military risk is being adopted in other parts of Iraq. This sends the worst conceivable signal to Iraqi advocates of democracy and would-be political leaders.

The incentives are simple, and widely understood: Take seriously the Bush strategy of democratization, supporting the occupation and sticking to peaceful advocacy, and you become an immediate candidate for assassination. Take up the weapons of terrorism, have a measure of success in the arts of murder and desecration, and the United States will soon be negotiating to put you in charge of "security" in your area--even if you are a former Baathist general still sporting a Saddam-style moustache.

Why is this happening? Is President Bush a Machiavellian, giving idealists the rhetoric and quietly awarding Huntington-style cultural chauvinists and Arab oligarchs the substance? Such massive deception is neither likely nor even very plausible for a president who doggedly continues to defend his vision of democratic renewal in the Arab and Islamic world, in the face of humiliating setbacks and ridicule from Mideast experts. If Bush were the sort of president willing to tolerate pleasant lies in search of favorable editorials, he long since would have resumed the endless farce of U.S.-led peace negotiations with Yasser Arafat.

Nor does the Falluja incentive system seem to stem from any grassroots revolt of the uniformed military against the Bush policy. By most accounts, the Marine units in Falluja were eager to crush the terrorists who had killed Americans and desecrated their bodies and were unhappy at the order to pull back. Besides, no defense secretary in memory has exercised greater control over ground execution than the brilliant, hands-on Rumsfeld. He may not be loved by the uniforms, but they know better than to try to sabotage the man who ordered the headlong rush to Baghdad a year ago, and was proven right by the astounding results.

A clue to what may be going on is Rumsfeld's recent, and rare, confession of unpleasant surprise at the number of U.S. casualties taking place a full year after the fall of Baghdad. Rumsfeld was an elective politician in the 1960s. His first stint as defense secretary began nearly three decades ago, just a few months after the North Vietnamese conquest of South Vietnam. It is a commonplace that the Vietnam experience turned many American hawks into doves or isolationists. Less well understood is what it did to those American hawks who never stopped being hawkish.

Hawks who wanted the United States to be able to act militarily after Vietnam created the movement called military reform. They fought successfully to end the draft. Their version of a modernized military emphasized technology, speed, and surprise, often involving airpower, rather than frontal infantry assaults. Again and again, they were proven right, never more so than in Rumsfeld's dazzling war plans for Afghanistan and Iraq.

What these hawks' military success obscured is a political analysis that is deeply flawed. Their premise, often unstated, is that U.S. public opinion turned against involvement in Vietnam because of persistently high U.S. casualties. But the truth is that public support for the war held up long after casualties became high (far higher, of course, than those we're seeing now). It began to falter when political elites faltered in their will to prevail, culminating in the visible demoralization of Lyndon Johnson and his administration in the wake of the Tet offensive of early 1968.

It is often recalled, as an oddity, that the breakthrough Eugene McCarthy vote in New Hampshire in March 1968 consisted more of hawks than doves. But that McCarthy vote was no oddity. The turn against the Johnson-Humphrey war strategy, and the ultimate passing of presidential dominance to the GOP, was not due to the doves, most of whom wound up voting for Humphrey in November 1968. The center of gravity of American politics shifted because of Vietnam hawks voting their frustration at the loss of a simple, understandable mission.

Rumsfeld may never have fully believed in the president's democratic mission in Iraq. That may have made it a simple decision to choose, in Falluja and perhaps elsewhere, to put a cap on American casualties at the expense of achieving decisive victory over antidemocratic and anti-American forces. But that sense of a loss of mission, not the level of U.S. casualties, is the gravest threat so far to the Bush war strategy, and thus to the Bush presidency.

As for Rumsfeld, it is at least interesting that amid his trials, he is reading about Ulysses S. Grant, a war leader who never confused loyalty to his president with the avoidance of casualties.

Jeffrey Bell is a principal of Capital City Partners, a Washington consulting firm.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: casualties; kia; vietnam; vietnamsyndrome; warfatigue; waronterror; weeklystandard
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1 posted on 05/15/2004 11:51:20 AM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Another conservative editor getting desperate when the time are tough. Someone needs to remind him and many conservative editors that the Bush campaign did not release its nuclear arsenal yet against John Kerry. In politics, timing is everything.


2 posted on 05/15/2004 11:56:37 AM PDT by jveritas
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To: jveritas
Astute observers know that the President and Rove are masters of keeping their powder dry, playing rope-a-dope, and waiting for optimal timing. Insecure, panicky, chicken littles can not do this.
3 posted on 05/15/2004 12:02:18 PM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: RWR8189
The danger to the Bush presidency lies in the decision to pull the Marines back from attacking Sunni terrorists in Falluja, and the growing probability that similar avoidance of U.S. military risk is being adopted in other parts of Iraq. This sends the worst conceivable signal to Iraqi advocates of democracy and would-be political leaders.

It doesn't take a military strategist to figure that one out.

I have no doubt that Dubya' understands the repercussions of sending such a signal, however only Dubya' has a grasp on the reasoning behind such a strategic move.

4 posted on 05/15/2004 12:03:11 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: RWR8189
Hawks who wanted the United States to be able to act militarily after Vietnam created the movement called military reform. They fought successfully to end the draft. . Again and again, they were proven right,...

Ironically, the "War-Monger" of the 1964 election, Barry Goldwater, was the prominent US Senator in ending the draft. Furthermore, the Goldwater-Nichols act began the military reforms that are now proving themselves in Iraq.

If John Kerry becomes president, I am going to join the winning side by becoming a Muslim and joining Al Qaeda. This country doesn't know the difference between leadership and incompetence.

5 posted on 05/15/2004 12:10:40 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: jveritas; AmericaUnited; EGPWS

You Bushbots are blind. This guy nails a crisis dead-on, and you dig your heads deeper into the sand, while muttering epithets about him.


6 posted on 05/15/2004 12:11:56 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: jveritas

I agree with you that the writer is "getting desperate when the time are tough" bedwetter.

"The danger to the Bush presidency lies in the decision to pull the Marines back from attacking Sunni terrorists in Falluja, and the growing probability that similar avoidance of U.S. military risk is being adopted in other parts of Iraq. This sends the worst conceivable signal to Iraqi advocates of democracy and would-be political leaders."

Nonsense. The strategy of the Marines in Fallujah *worked*.

Remember our main goal is to democratize Iraq. That means removing threats to the political process. Being heavyhanded would have been a bigger danger that what we ended up doing. The so-called 'resistance' was a threat. We took out close to a thousand fighters and have now put in place Iraqi police forces who have pacified that town. There is no insurgency there anymore. Given the situation on April 1, this is a remarkable achievement.


7 posted on 05/15/2004 12:13:28 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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My remedy for this guy is: sit down, take a deep breath, a good strong shot of whiskey and listen to Darryl Worley sing "Have You Forgotten.?"

More importantly, get outside the beltway most of the summer and visit small towns celebrate Memorial Day and July Fourth and most importantly of all, only eat home cooked food, beer or lemonade made with real sugar and corn-on-the-cob with real butter.

8 posted on 05/15/2004 12:16:27 PM PDT by zerosix
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To: mrustow

He nailed nothing. He has the Iraqi facts on the ground wrong.

We have killed over 100 al-Sadr militia forces in the last week, a militia that is no match for us. We are smashing it.

Of course we are holding back in our force response, but for very good reasons and in ways that do nothing to diminish our effectiveness. Our troops are measured, patience, powerful, and precise.

The problem with so many is they get wrapped up in the lies of CNN/BBC etc., and dont look at what is really going on.

A single CJTF-7 briefing debunks most of the claims he makes about Iraq.


9 posted on 05/15/2004 12:17:39 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com - I salute our brave fallen.)
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To: mrustow
You Bushbots are blind.

The "blind" will be celebrating with glee and contentment when the majority of the US voters are found to be "sight impaired" in November. ; )

10 posted on 05/15/2004 12:22:33 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: AmericaUnited

Exactly! Everyone just needs to chill.


11 posted on 05/15/2004 12:25:32 PM PDT by no dems (Does the Bush/Cheney camp monitor the Freep website?)
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To: zerosix

zerosix wrote:

My remedy for this guy is: sit down, take a deep breath, a good strong shot of whiskey and listen to Darryl Worley sing "Have You Forgotten.?"

More importantly, get outside the beltway most of the summer and visit small towns celebrate Memorial Day and July Fourth and most importantly of all, only eat home cooked food, beer or lemonade made with real sugar and corn-on-the-cob with real butter.




That's actually good advice for anyone!


12 posted on 05/15/2004 12:28:49 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: AmericaUnited

Exactly.

Wobbly cowards, watch and learn.

Bush is unstoppable, because he is tough as nails, and is right.

He will do the right thing, regardless of political cost. And he will be right, and wobbly cowards will knash their teeth.


13 posted on 05/15/2004 12:32:15 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Hillary was in charge of the FBI files, which went into a data base: WHoDB. Genious hackers, expose)
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To: RWR8189
This would be quite a good article, if a word of it was true.
14 posted on 05/15/2004 12:34:52 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: RWR8189
Well, now it seem this cowboy - jeffery bell - has jumped on his horse and rode off in ALL directions.

The war with Iraq is no more VietNam, and VietNam was WWII.

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the more media we allow into the war zone, the more they find wrong with it?

They were bad enough during VietNam, and everyone knows it wasn't the military that "lost" that war, it was lost at home...thanks to the liberal press.

IMHO the biggest problem in ending the draft is, that the media doesn't have to go through the military. With their biggest problem being the printer running out of ink at deadline, they get to stand in the unique position of being busy-bodies, standing in judgement of something they know very little about.

Actually, journalism works like this - you find an "expert" (pro or con), you talk to them off camera, then you get on camera and try to sound/look like you know what you're talking about. Suddenly, because you took the easist course college had to offer other than basket weaving, you're suddenly a freakin' expert on everything.

Pulllleeeezzzzzzzeeeeeee.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program...
15 posted on 05/15/2004 12:52:29 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: RWR8189
The Weakly Standard is full of McCainiacs.

A pox on them.

16 posted on 05/15/2004 12:54:46 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: mrustow
With all due respect, I detect a political "malaise" among the conservative pundits.

They are wavering from the stated (and necessary) objective of a free and democratic Iraq because of, gasp, domestic politics.

At this point, the Bush administration seems more concerned with getting the job done than with playing politics. Such a course involves some risk, certainly, but is in the long run best interest of the country. Which, in turn, will eventually redound to their political benefit.

The Abu Ghraib affair, while a political and media firestorm domestically, cuts no ice in the strategic sense. Or, ironically, in Iraq proper -- where they know what the term "atrocity" really means. Indeed, the affair represents an opportunity to demonstrate to the Iraqis precisely what "rule of law" means.

Nonetheless, the photos have jellified the spines of many conservatives who reside in the political hothouse inside the Beltway. Presumably, they'll recover their perspective as soon as the Bush approval numbers rise again (as they will).

18 posted on 05/15/2004 1:00:43 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: mrustow
You Bushbots are blind.

Well unleast we don't keep seeing an imaginary boogie man behind every tree.

19 posted on 05/15/2004 1:45:38 PM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: RWR8189

It would be splendid if the Standard staff, headed by Kristol, could be whisked to the front lines in Iraq and take over duties there for at least a few days while the Army and Marines have a rest.

Think of all the words they could shoot at the enemy.


20 posted on 05/15/2004 2:03:11 PM PDT by mtntop3 ("Those who must know before they believe will never come to full knowledge.")
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