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US sliding back to a racially segregated society
Theage.com ^ | 16/05/04 | Andrew West

Posted on 05/15/2004 10:01:06 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat

They were six words that convulsed a nation.

On May 17, 1954 - 50 years ago - nine justices of the US Supreme Court declared: "Separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."

Before them was the case of Linda Brown, a seven-year-old black student in Topeka, Kansas, who was suing the local board of education so she could attend a whites-only school closer to her home, rather than a far away, segregated black school.

The judges' decision in Brown v Board undid a notorious 1896 decision, Plessey v Ferguson, which had legalised the idea that black and white Americans could receive a separate education and public services so long as they were equal - which, of course, they never were. (The state of South Carolina, for example, spent 10 times more on white students.)

But with these six words, the game was up for officially sanctioned racism in the US.

"Our goal was more than just school


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1 posted on 05/15/2004 10:01:06 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Title SHOULD be:

US sliding back to a racially segregated society, thanks to Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Calypso Louie, ACLU, NAACP, Johnnie Cochran,.........

2 posted on 05/15/2004 10:05:14 AM PDT by EggsAckley (........"LIBERATE YOUR INNER BONOBO".........)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

Half a century after Brown Part III
Townhall.com ^ | May 14, 2004 | Thomas Sowell
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1135400/posts


3 posted on 05/15/2004 10:07:35 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Check this out at 1:30 (about 15 minutes from now) on C-SPAN. Brown v. Board of Education 50th Anniversary. Tavis Smiley had a session this morning and all they spewed was hate. It's live.
4 posted on 05/15/2004 10:14:47 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

Ironically enough, I work in an office where no two people share the same ethnicity or religion.


5 posted on 05/15/2004 10:16:04 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Any "church" that can't figure out abortion and homosexuality isn't worthy of the appellation)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
All true, but anybody that's ever lived in Atlanta can tell you, it's the exact opposite. I lived for over a year in Norcross, and my black neighbors would barely say hi. About a dozen black girls would pick on my daughter every day at the bus stop, because she was white.

My wife still works there, but we moved farther out. She's finally been accepted, not as white, but as an honorary black.

Living for nearly a decade in the north, I always wondered why so many people I knew in the south, where I came from, were so racist. One of my good friends in high school took a perfectly nice guy to prom. Because he happened to be black, they acting like she had broken some cardinal rule.

When I moved to Jersey, I found many friends of all types. People I could honestly have a discuss about politics or race with over coffee. There was some segregation by neighborhood, but nothing to the extent it is here.

We had always tried to teach our kids that how people treat you matters, not what they look like, but then they were subjected to reverse racism. As anybody around Doraville can tell you, there are whole section of strip malls now where the Mexicans don't even bother to put up their store signs in English. The gangs were starting to get bad when I left 2 years ago, and now Canton is starting the same process. We're starting to see a lot of hispanic vs. hispanic crime here in the metro, and in the last couple of weeks, at least 2 violent incidents of black on hispanic crime.

And then the topper. We're moving to the country in a couple of weeks. I want my children to grow up on a farm. I can't even fathom what this place will be like in another 5-10 years. And one of my wife's friends at work, a nice guy from Africa, told her she was doing the right thing. He said he would rather have a farm than an apartment in the city, and it wasn't safe here anymore for people like her anyway. She said, "Because I'm white?" And he said, "Yes."

Forced segregation may have ended, but it seems that a lot of people, out of want or necessity, have brought it back on their own.

6 posted on 05/15/2004 10:20:55 AM PDT by TheLurkerX ("Of course liberals always seem p*ssed off. You would be too if you wore 2 left shoes.")
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

People like to be around at least some of their own race and culture. I remember a study that said black people's ideal integrated neighborhood would be fifty percent black, and that white people's integrated neighborhood would be eighty percent white. Not real compatible, and not anyone's fault, either.

Mrs VS


7 posted on 05/15/2004 10:23:56 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
It is the gaping economic inequality in the US, where 13 per cent of people live below the poverty line of $US17,960 ($A26,000) a year for a family of four, that is fuelling today's racial segregation. This injustice is rampant among African Americans, almost a quarter of whom live in poverty, compared with 10 per cent of whites and Asians

Three quarters of blacks do NOT live in poverty. Enough said.

8 posted on 05/15/2004 10:28:22 AM PDT by Torie
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Where I live, nobody in America lives in poverty.


9 posted on 05/15/2004 10:31:00 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
The United States is NOT sliding back into a racially segregated society. It may be sliding into a racially separated society. That is far different from a segregated society.

The racial segregation that existed prior to Brown v. Board of Education was sanctioned and mandated by the government. These government regulations were rightly swept away. Tolerance of government discrimination against a group you don't like means that there is nothing to stop that same government from discriminating against YOU.

Desegregation of a society of not mean that it can, will, or should become integrated. That is up to the individuals involved and the government should stay out so that it doesn't muck things up more than they already are.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

10 posted on 05/15/2004 10:38:18 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: EggsAckley

Bush's "No Child Left Behind" act may be causing some segregation of a different kind. To boost student scores, some schools are putting more lower scoring students into special ed. This is a good thing academically as it groups students of similar abilities into different class rooms allowing each group to do their best. But this is against the leftist tradition of handicapping the smart kids to make life "fair".


11 posted on 05/15/2004 10:42:50 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

The real gist of the article is in the last few paragraphs. They're basically saying that we should be a heavily unionized , heavily regulated welfare state where people aren't allowed to live where they want to live and choose where their children go to school ...in order for blacks to get ahead.


12 posted on 05/15/2004 10:43:15 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

If this is happening, it is a matter of personal choice, not Government sponsored segregation as before.

Are pregnant women seeking an abortion, the only citizens with a right to choose?


13 posted on 05/15/2004 10:43:20 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If you are dead on 2 Nov. 04, you will be voting for John Kerry. Stay healthy and vote for Bush!)
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To: TheLurkerX; Jakarta ex-pat
Living for nearly a decade in the north, I always wondered why so many people I knew in the south, where I came from, were so racist.

Allow me to speak up in defense of my fellow Georgians.

I'm a native, born in Marietta, and raised in the small town of Winston, in Douglas county.

Our population break down was and still is 70% white, 30% black. Although both groups tended to live amongst one another by choice, we all went to the same schools, played on the same baseball/football teams,and hung out at the same places, went to the same churches.

In high school, the black kids split up amongst the social groups already in place; rich kids, jocks, geeks, and heads, and didn't segregate amongst themselves.

At our prom, we had two mixed race couples attend, no one cared, and that was 1985.

I would dare say the population of your county is 75% non-native.

But let's not take just my word for it, let's ask resident FReeper mhking, who lives in Mableton, on my side of town, what he thinks. Mike, is Georgia any more or less racist than other places? Have you had any problems here?

14 posted on 05/15/2004 10:43:40 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Don’t go around stating the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first.)
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Oops...

Ping to #14.


15 posted on 05/15/2004 10:45:23 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Don’t go around stating the world owes you a living; the world owes you nothing; it was here first.)
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Re: My comment at #4. Introducing the race-baitors now for this afternoons session.


16 posted on 05/15/2004 10:49:55 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Reeses

There's plenty of slow white kids who should be benefitting from special ed as well. I was one of them, I should know and if this type of special attention had been available to me, I would likely not have given up and dropped out.

Whatever the racial or ethnic make up of these special ed classes may be, the students should be counceled as to exactly how positively their entire future lives and that of their children will be influenced by these classes, if they apply themselves with dilligence. If the highway to success sometimes leads through a detour on the way to your destination, it doesn't matter upon arrival.

Give this "No child left behind" plan about 15 or 20 years to fully reach fruitation, and America will see so many students graduating and going on to higher education, that future generations will look back upon "No child left behind" as a miracle.


17 posted on 05/15/2004 11:09:17 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If you are dead on 2 Nov. 04, you will be voting for John Kerry. Stay healthy and vote for Bush!)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
"And one of the most appalling things is that the average dream of inner-city black youths is to live until their 21st birthday, because in the ghetto they face homicide, drugs and HIV-AIDS.

And yet the Democrats continue to receive 90% to 110% of the vote in the cities with these problems.

18 posted on 05/15/2004 11:22:38 AM PDT by RJL
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To: TheLurkerX
"Living for nearly a decade in the north, I always wondered why so many people I knew in the south, where I came from, were so racist" "Racism" in the South is different from "racism" in the North

After 400 years of living side by side, struggling together through famine, plaques, hurricanes, boll weevils, depression, civil war and world wars, whites and blacks in the South evolved a comfort level that people in the North don't appreciate.

We're different colors but we share the same foods, religious beliefs, dialect, social customs and historical heritage

Racism in the North has components of fear of the unknown and disdain for a foreign culture.

19 posted on 05/15/2004 11:35:37 AM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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To: TheLurkerX

Make it to the gun show in Norcross today? Lotsa good deals available.


20 posted on 05/15/2004 12:02:04 PM PDT by Taquito
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