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To: Missk9; All

YES, QUITE SO.

HOwever, my univ library boss did not have a TV all his kids growing up years. Would go to a neighbors to watch special things.

Also, if parents haven't taught their kids how to make discerning Godly choices before 10 years old, then they are in trouble.

Parents during the demonic years of Rome's rule with Ceaser as god were able to raise Godly kids. Many great prophets in the Bible failed to do so.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON ONE'S PRIORITIES. YES. IT'S D*MN HARD!

AND, BY GOD'S GRACE, I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS ME. IF RAISING KIDS SUCCESSFULLY ISN'T ONE OF THE TOP OF THOSE THINGS, THEN SOMETHING IS DREADFULLY WRONG TO BEGIN WITH.

I've often pondered this issue of raising kids in an evil culture. I think I agree with Francis Schaeffer. I'd raise Godly rebels.

Devoted to God and cleverly rebellious against the Godless, demonic culture. IN IT BUT NOT OF IT.

Jews have been doing it successfully for centuries. Amish less well.

Those in churches which do not teach THE WORD and especially those in churches where the leadership and the majority of the congregation fail to ACT OUT THE WORD--likely are also failing at this crucial task of raising Godly children in a demonic culture.

It's not easy. I know it's far from easy. I've seen and had to deal with tons of the failures. I'm painfully aware. And I've also seen very few, relatively who've done it well and right regardless. But that does assure me that it's possible.

I just saw last night on the HGTV thing about the blind man that was single father to 3 kids--oldest a 17 year old girl. Wrote the TV remodeling group and was chosen. And the guy was incredible. Blind or not, he still went overboard doing what he could to help the crew remodeling his kids bedrooms. The MC lady said she'd never met a man more impressive as a man and a father than that man. Somehow, blind or not, he had succeeded with those kids in this culture. IT IS POSSIBLE.

It is NOT easy.

Maybe in many situations a triage decision has to be made. Some thing just have to fall by the wayside.

I think clean and order are good.

BUT I'VE LEARNED, CLEANLINESS AND ORDER are far from ALWAYS the priority.

Many times, It's worth asking, in 3 weeks, 3 months or 3 years, what will I care if I let XYZ go another week, month or whatever.

How can I involve my kid in this task in a way that affords us some dialogue time.

How can I share this problem with my kid in a way that draws us closer together?

Asking questions like that and doggedly digging up solutions is worth it.


81 posted on 05/15/2004 12:05:12 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix
Yep... I feel much the same of all you wrote. Unfortunately I teach high school in a low socio economic area to kids with (don't look too surprised) behavior disorders.

I am the parent of awesome kids who grew up with a sound faith filled home but I see a lot of parents not home mentally...and physically. While that has been a problem for generations in our society...there was at least a basic moral that emanated through our culture...now that is going too and too many of us are letting the evil permeate in.

In my classroom when we say the pledge and then there is a "moment of silence' (instead of prayer-dont get me started on that one!) I tell my students I am praying for them. Of course they roll their eyes...but sometimes they smile. Its worth the chance I figure.

But I still compete daily with "slipknot" and "Resident Evil" "Hellboy" and the like...sigh! arrrgh!
129 posted on 05/16/2004 2:56:45 AM PDT by Missk9
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