[Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit]

agreed.

[Aquinasfan]

Oh yeah, and the religious "usurpation" is actually the "supernaturalizing" of a natural institution. Catholics believe that sacramental marriage provides special graces, the graces that help move husband and wife to order each other to their proper final end, eternal life with God, and graces to help them prepare their children for the same end.

[Iron Matron]

agreed.


Really? For some reason, I did not think you would agree with me.

Is it because I do not appear to be against civil unions?

Let me clarify:
Religiously, Homosexuals do not have the high ground at all - no matter how they try to interpret the bible, they cant change it enough to prove their behavior is not abhorrent to God - I am against condoning sinful behavior, because condoning it will send me to hell the same as if I was a homo myself.

Out of the religious realm, (sort of, no Christian can condone sin just because they are not in church at the moment) If the government decides to let homos have civil unions - so be it, it is those decision makers who will go to hell with the gays. I can live with civil unions unless the government intends to force believing pastors to let gays have their ceremonies in churches.

I am personally against civil unions for gays, because, as with Roe v Wade, the unknown consequences can, and I suspect will, be very bad indeed.