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USDA orders silence on mad cow in Texas
The Washington Times ^ | May 12, 2004 | Steve Mitchell

Posted on 05/13/2004 8:12:27 PM PDT by neverdem

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:42:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: TaxRelief
USDA orders silence on mad cow in Texas

Pretty hard to keep a mad cow from mooing, isn't it?

Duct tape.

41 posted on 05/14/2004 9:01:46 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: brityank

This is a "little" background info on USDA FSIS.

Our meat inspection system is a mess. USDA has hundreds of questionably qualified Middle Eastern veterinarians running the system. I'm not saying the muslim USDA veterinarians are terrorists, but they are not loyal to America and don't share our sanitation standards. When you look at pictures of the "progressive" and "advanced" countries of the Middle East and their food handling procedures, think about that USDA Pakistani veterinarian checking your meat daily. I am not a vegetarian, but I do cook my meat very well before eating it.

The USDA FSIS hired hundreds of Pakistani and other Middle East veterinarians in the 1980's and 1990's because they couldn't find American veterinarians to do the job. Federal law mandates USDA veterinarians oversee inspection at all slaughter facilities. The law didn't seem to specify "competent" veterinarians. The Pakistani "veterinary" degrees are questionable, but accepted by USDA as equivalent to American degrees. These people don't have the same sanitary standards as we do and are inspecting our meat daily. Many of the Middle Eastern muslim veterinarians have now worked their way up the USDA system. Our government is filled with these "American Hating" muslims who are just here to make money and then retire to their "utopian homelands." They came here purely for the jobs with no intention of becoming real Americans and assimilating into our society. These Pakistani vets don't allow their children to marry Americans and send them back to their "homelands" to marry. The ME vets don't follow government regulations properly and do what they want. To them, Americans are stupid and not to be listened to. (The infidel thing) It is not politically correct to make them do their jobs properly or hold them to the same standards as American educated veterinarians. They also intimidate the women that must work under them. Their "politically incorrect" behavior is overlooked because it is a "cultural" thing. Double standards are the norm in government service. The ME's disdain Americans so much, I don't know why they even come here. Why do we let them in our country? These people hate us. I dislike being so ethnocentric, but these people hate Americans. There are a few Middle Easterners that get along well with our system, but not many.

Ijaz Qazi is probably one of the Middle Eastern veterinarians who worked his way up the system and is now in a supervisory position making decisions that affect us all. This isn't a Clinton holdover problem, but a problem more sinister and deeply embedded in the system. Is it wrong to want our government to use a little more discretion in deciding whom they allow into our country? It is a little scary to realize we have so many high ranking Middle Eastern government employees who are not totally loyal to our country making important decisions for America. Their "Hate America," and "We muslims are Superior" attitude has to color their decisions.

I wouldn't depend on FSIS to protect us from BSE. The "Gag" order is standard operating procedure at FSIS and employees fear telling the truth. You don't talk when your only method of earning a living is threatened. I changed my FR name just to post this so it couldn't be traced back to my "locale." It sounds paranoid, but that is the atmosphere at USDA. "CYA" is the main theme at FSIS, so don't expect much info or accountability out of them. I expected better out of a Republican administration. All government agencies probably suffer from the same problems. Government employees might not do their jobs competently, but they can quote all of the politically correct propaganda they must learn.

The bottom-line, don't trust anything out of FSIS.


42 posted on 05/14/2004 9:29:26 AM PDT by wimpywoman
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To: brityank

"Ijaz Qazi"

I was like...wondering the um same thing but was afraid to say it outloud.


43 posted on 05/14/2004 9:44:14 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: MizSterious

Remember the thread I had started about hep virus? Check out this thread and post #42..then freepmail me please! ;)


44 posted on 05/14/2004 9:46:35 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: neverdem
USDA's got something to hide bump.
45 posted on 05/14/2004 10:13:19 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: sam_paine
Thoughts on #31?

From comment# 11, "The disease is a unique member of the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) or prion diseases,"

I'm still looking for a handle with a better grip. While genetic predisposition seems to offer an explanation, the notion of transmissable prions or their causative agents is humbling. We don't know what we don't know.

46 posted on 05/14/2004 10:29:50 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: sam_paine
I don't know what to make of your report. It's not that I doubt what you are saying, I'm saying that I haven't read much on the topic.

I am aware that vegans have tried to exploit the fear of mad cow. I am aware that some foreign governments are envious that America's cattle industry has so far not been tainted (wasn't that a Candadian cow that was not properly tracked to America?).

If a terrorist (eco or political) could infect American livestock, they could create a shortage/boycott raising prices (prices are already higher), affect the economy, etc. It is unlikely that we would go through a famine.

I generally eat buffalo or other lower fat red meat. It is fresh ground (not frozen).

How much of the contaminated meat that went to market was contaminated because of production of patties at the slaugterhouse?

As far as suicide of ranchers in England, there was a different health order but tragic results in Australia. The man who Crocodile Dundee was based on died after he refused to slaughter something like a thousand head of sheep to prevent a disease from sweaping Australia. It wasn't that his herd was infected, it was a concept akin to cutting down trees to prevent the spread of a forest fire.

He died in a Waco style shootout with law enforcement.

47 posted on 05/14/2004 11:07:40 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: lelio
I would gladly pay more money for beef that came from a tested cow.

Oddly enough I was in a pub restaurant today and they advertised "Snake River Farms Kobe beef" hamburgers. Was $12 for one (includes fries) but that's not much more than a regular one for $9. Couldn't believe how good the beef tasted. You can google for their website.

I think that's the way a lot of beef is going to go, with more speciality suppliers. Heck for $3 more I got one of the best tasting burgers ever.

The supplier is here in the US (they imported cows from Kobe, Japan and crossed them with Angus) and advertises the beef based on flavor. How far down the road will we see farms advertise based on that the cow was tested for a disease? I can't see that adding more than a few cents to a dozen burgers.

Eow! Their prices are a little high though. $40 for 2 pounds of Angus Top Sirloin? Yowzer.
48 posted on 05/14/2004 1:17:50 PM PDT by lelio
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To: neverdem

I am all for the farmer. But the Ag people are out of control in my opinion. And they have the power to scare anyone. They are destroying our aqufers and our water supplies with there Liquid Manure...Which they have dumped in masive quantities. No one can do anything about it. It is about time that there intimidations on anyone who trys to point out problems in the Agricultural areas come to light. And it is about time that there corruption is exposed and they are taken down a few notches. The ordianary farmer had a whole lot more common sense than these government sponsered Terrorist's.


49 posted on 05/14/2004 5:06:59 PM PDT by Revel
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To: neverdem

I was also curious about Ijaz Qazi. I did a Google search. All I turned up is that this mad cow story is all over the place already. It's even been translated into Italian on some Green web site.


50 posted on 05/17/2004 6:29:27 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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