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Nick Berg had "coincidental" link to Moussoui
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Posted on 05/13/2004 2:05:20 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: TheSpottedOwl

Where did you read/hear that the uncle was Muslim or would have a problem marrying a Jewess? There are Jews in Iraq. Not many, but they are there.


1,141 posted on 05/14/2004 5:51:51 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Sabertooth

Thanks for the ping.

This guy had more Islamofascist/al Qaeda/ contacts than the FBI has had. This smell more of the a Team al Qaeda than the minor league al Fuqra.

We both know the probability of the coincidences is way beyond the computing power of a Kray computer.


1,142 posted on 05/14/2004 5:59:45 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: cgk

AND, get this, John Doe #2 was working at Logan International Airport on 9/11 - as a food handler which is how authorities think some box knives were smuggled aboard the planes.

AND, he told four psychiatrists that if anything happened at that airport, he'd be blamed.


1,143 posted on 05/14/2004 6:08:48 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Travis McGee; ladyinred; backhoe; piasa
Travis Posted: I think we're way way ahead of the media curve on this. Hell, we were years ahead of the media on the Northwest Terror Connection!

Travis even when there is some good reporting by the mediots, they never want to connect the dots on these connections and improbable coincidences.

Re: Portland, Oregon- hub of terror? Some Surprising Connections-From backhoe. Here you are: Click the pic:
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1,144 posted on 05/14/2004 6:09:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: kcvl
Berg, who operated a small communications company from his family's home, first went to Baghdad in late December, returning Feb. 1. In March, he returned to Iraq, but after having trouble finding work there, he told his parents that he would be home by the end of the month

Ah, the small business just got smaller to what, the nighstand his phone sits on? Yet he needed to hire a company to do payroll for him and papa.

On March 24, he was detained by Iraqi police in Mosul in a late night sweep.

Ok, so he wasn't singled out but it was a late night sweep. That fits with his friends at the Baghdad hotel who were concerned with him hanging out a night with locals. Of course the police and US forces would be most interested in such a person.

Billings said Berg had done work for his company for about a year and a half. He said he had three jobs waiting for Berg once he came back.

Proof there was plenty of work at home.

"What I recall, if Nick had an issue with something going on in the school, he would come and tell me about it. If we agreed to disagree, he'd say, 'Mr. Bart, I am going to ask you about this every year.' He did it in such a nice, respectful way that you enjoyed hearing from him."

Yep, I've been saying he had problems with authority and had a need to prove to everyone he was right. First his dad, then everyone who told him not to go, Baghdad hotel folks told him not to hang out on the street at night, aunt's brother-in-law told him being there was danerous for them both, police and military told him to go home. I also find that disagreeing with someone in such a nice, respectful way is a handy tool when trying to throw off suspicion especially when the FBI is questioning you about 9/11 terrorists who use your computer. That's another thing, I don't know anyone who lets anyone and everyone use their computer.

1,145 posted on 05/14/2004 6:10:49 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: mtbopfuyn

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1,146 posted on 05/14/2004 6:18:07 AM PDT by TomHarkinIsNotFromIowa (Foe Hammer!)
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To: fatima

The father also said on our local news that Al Queda was bad, as though he had to say that. Almost as bad as Pres. Bush. I couldn't believe he said that. Now I see there's way more to what he is saying.


1,147 posted on 05/14/2004 6:25:33 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Dolphy
This has always stuck with me because in other reports he is said to have looked like a Marine with short hair. Somehow that doesn't describe an Iranian to me.

That is what he looked like in the body-building picture. However, if he let his hair & beard grow while he was out of the U.S. (like the prison picture) he would look like a Middle-Eastern person. His hair looks very dark & very curly. If he had on the right clothes & kept his mouth shut...

1,148 posted on 05/14/2004 6:30:24 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Skywalk
Maybe Berg's case is exactly what it looks like with a terrible unfortunate connection to Moussaoui?

I think that is a distinct possibility. I won't rule out some of the other theories yet, but in the end, this wouldn't surprise me.

1,149 posted on 05/14/2004 6:32:13 AM PDT by twigs
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To: cgk

I have my doubts that Berg was linked up to all this. However, as I read your old WP article, I seem to recall that the OKC bombing had a Philadelphia connection. Something about the son of a fireman, maybe the fire chief. A youg business major? Does anyone else remember him?


1,150 posted on 05/14/2004 6:34:57 AM PDT by twigs
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To: feinswinesuksass
"I have seen a bunch of info....Bergs passport had an Israel stamp, he had allowed a terrorist to use his cellphone...and now this. Not sure what is true."

Well, we can surmise. Would the CIA send an undercover agent to Iraq with an Jewish name and Israeli stamp on his passport? One must presume not. The father's political leanings could be faked, to make a CIA agent look sympathetic to the terrorists' cause. But the CIA could have alter the son's passport, and surname, to help him blend in better.

A more likely scenario is that Berg's father is lying about his son being a Bush supporter. Then the whole idea of his son going to be a human shield or some other terrorist supporter fits like a glove. The son could have even faked being a Bush supporter to elicit information and pass it on to the bad guys. It would also explain his past association with a terrorist, letting that terrorist use his cell phone and being held or questioned by the Iraqi police or FBI. Again, I wonder what languages he spoke. I've heard he has an uncle living in Iraq (another weirdness). His being killed by his "best friends" (the father's words, not mine) would also fit. Terrorists often kill their own.

Of course, I may be wrong. I often am. I'm just trying to figure out which scenario best fits the facts.

1,151 posted on 05/14/2004 6:58:14 AM PDT by keats5
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To: Peach
David Berg says that Nick Berg and Massoui shared a bus ride.

Gee, doesn't everyone hand over their passwords to total strangers on a bus?

1,152 posted on 05/14/2004 6:58:29 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: TomGuy; Travis McGee; Squantos
TG posted: The horrifying thought:

Assuming Berg and the murderous thugs sort of knew each other, what if Nick 'posed' for the video, thinking it was a PR type stunt. Notice in the video that he does not show much reaction while sitting on the floor, as if he doesn't know what is about to happen. Nick cooperates in filming the PR stunt, but at the last moments, Zarqawi and company perform the real act.

1,153 posted on 05/14/2004 7:06:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: antaresequity
What countries did Nick Berg visit in Africa and when did he visit them?

Here's what I've gathered: Fall semester 98 he did a Cornell Univ engineering/electronics program in Uganda. Interesting that he earns himself a scholarship to continue Cornell studies due in part to this program but he drops out and moves to OK. I haven't seen dates but at some point he's making bricks in Ghana. In Kenya he's setting up communication equipment. And somewhere in Africa he's out drilling water wells.

1,154 posted on 05/14/2004 7:08:23 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: twigs

twigs,I saw that,I am so behind on this thread .I stopped at 600 last night but there is so much imput I want to read it all.


1,155 posted on 05/14/2004 7:16:21 AM PDT by fatima (My Granddaughter Karen is Home-WOOHOO We unite with all our troops and send our love-)
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To: P-Marlowe
...so there is no way to trace the sender or the recipient.

Wrongo. The feds can find you. Internet providers keep a log of every user, every login and every assigned IP. Normally it would take a search warrant to get this stuff, but I'm sure the spooks can get it whenever they want.

1,156 posted on 05/14/2004 7:21:18 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: Steve_Seattle

"On the other hand, they DID send Joseph Wilson to Niger . . ."

Actually the CIA didn't send Wilson to Niger.

Plame's boss Foley, sent Wilson there without any authorization from above. The first that Tenant knew about Wilson in Niger was when he saw the summary of what probably didn't happen from Wilson's unauthorized visit.

In August, Foley, resigned suddenly from the CIA. Foley is the connection, and he ain't with the CIA any more.


1,157 posted on 05/14/2004 7:21:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: Southack
Can we verify these facts? Good grief, next somebody will be telling me that the kid "worked" in Uganda...

Um, yep. The spring semester 98 he did a Cornell University program in Uganda setting up a communications system. That's when he got a scholarship to continue at Cornell but drops out to go to OU where he meets Moussaoui. Google and you'll find it.

1,158 posted on 05/14/2004 7:23:43 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: PhiKapMom

Do we know the account was an OU account or was it an ISP or freebie account?


1,159 posted on 05/14/2004 7:27:00 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Barlowmaker
So Berg went to Uganda. "He was working with designing bricks - which are called stabilized soil,"

I don't have the link but found it googling but it said he went to Uganda on an engineering program through Cornell (Spring semester 98). The brick making adventure was in Ghana. But who knows what's what at this point.

1,160 posted on 05/14/2004 7:42:46 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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