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Students Protest Drop in Minority Enrollment (Berkeley, and caption photo)
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Posted on 05/13/2004 5:26:17 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Let's see the numbers on minority applicants...willing to bet there's a decline in numbers there too.
To: chance33_98
Did it ever dawn on them to consider that just maybe there are more qualified candidates?
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posted on
05/13/2004 5:46:47 AM PDT
by
Bikers4Bush
(Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for conservatives!)
To: chance33_98
In the interests of promoting multiculturaldiversitytolerance, Sarge iwll not be posting a caption to this photo.
But, if he DID, it would be something like THIS:
![](http://www.dailycal.org/images/art/05.13.sitin.IQBAL.jpg)
BLACK GIRL: "I'm really glad to see all these progressive-minded free thinkers out here protesting today, to show support in our struggle..."
WHITE GUY: "WHAT protest?!? I'm just trying to hook up with you later, Momma..."
To: Ron in Acreage
In years past this sort of thing was very confined on campus. In the 70's when I was there it was quite a good school and most of the radical stuff was instigated by the hangers-on that had little official association with the faculty. Inside the university it self the leftist were mostly in Grad school. I think that that is what tipped it: The 60's boomers graduated and became faculty. You really could spend years on campus and not really have to deal with it much at all, it was mostly just local loonies on Sproul Plaza (if you know Berkeley.) I neversaw politics come up in a class room nor ever had it affect my standing and my political opinions were quite well know (I admit that I did not take any courses in the sort of curriculum that might have attracted this element at that time.) Now, of course, one would have to keep one's trap shut I am sure. They have really ruined a once great university. The same thing could be said about Ann Arbor. It was amazing to get the quality of education that one could get at Berkeley at a public school. When I went there admissions were as tough as Harvard and MIT in some areas. Seems like it is mostly gone now.
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To: chance33_98
It's going to get a lot worse. Take a look at your local high school. It ain't cool to be an achiever.
To: AQGeiger
The main effect of affirmative action is to promote blacks to their level of incompetence - and probable failure.
while the numbers of blacks at UC Berkley have decreased, the total number of blacks enrolled and graduating from the UC system of schools is increasing . . . .
I remember thinking that the end of affirmative action in UC admittance - due to passage of an initiative - would have exactly that effect.
Walter Williams has written some very good articles on this subject.Got links? I'm interested in this.
To: AQGeiger
"It's not that they're not applying. It's that minorities are, in inreasing proportions, attending other schools in the UC system that are not quite so rigorous"
Bingo! The African-American community has figured out that affirmative action programs tend to mis-place blacks into 1st Tier Universities where they have trouble surviving academically. Its a trickle down effect too. Kids that could be successful at a State University are being sucked up into Harvard, where they fail. This opens up slots back at the State University, where kids who would perform better at a local community college are being suckered into throwing down a few grand just to get remedial courses that the Public Education Plantation failed to teach to them. I went back to school and needed to take a remedial math course - almost my entire class was minority.
Its not their fault either - the plantation called Public Education (run by the Teacher's Union) has failed Black America. They see the solution as pulling their kids out of Democratic Slavery and into private schools or home schools.
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:15:00 AM PDT
by
Fenris6
To: chance33_98
Students protest drop in minority enrollment at Berkelely. What hypocrites! This is the same university that denies admission to well-qualified Asian students based on their own form of "racial profiling."
What they should be protesting is the drop in students who deserve to be there.
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:26:54 AM PDT
by
wai-ming
To: conservatism_IS_compassion
Here you go. I have to eat a bit of crow, though. The article is by Thomas Sowell. Walter Williams does write on affirmative action, but the subject of UC Berkeley in particular is Sowell's forte.
The Other Side of Affirmative Action
This article is from 1999. I know he's written on the subject since then, but that was the first thing I found, and I'm trying to give you a speedy response. Jewish World Review has a very complete archive of his articles, you could find other items on the subject there.
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:27:29 AM PDT
by
AQGeiger
(Flame suits are FUN.)
To: chance33_98
Where can I go for my edumacation?
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posted on
05/13/2004 6:30:19 AM PDT
by
YourAdHere
(If you can read this, you didn't go to DC public schools.)
To: chance33_98
So let them drop out of school & give their seat to a minority person.
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To: AQGeiger
THERE WERE 55 BLACK STUDENTS attending the University of California at Irvine in 1997, before racial preferences and quotas were outlawed. In 1998 that number rose to 71 and in 1999 to 81. This was a total increase of 47 percent in two years.http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell060899.asp
Therefore the effect
on black graduation rates of the initiative outlawing affirmative action started in 2002, and after this June we will have three years' data on the changeover's effect. I want the data!
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