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Ann Coulter - Crazy-Like-A-Fox News Viewer
townhall.com ^ | 5/13/04 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 05/12/2004 10:52:43 PM PDT by kattracks

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To: bayourod
Peggy Noonan's column


http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110005069
21 posted on 05/13/2004 6:34:19 AM PDT by maica (Member of Republican Attack Machine, RAM, previously known as the VRWC)
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To: kattracks
Ann Coulter BUMP!
22 posted on 05/13/2004 6:42:05 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: 7thson
I'm sure they appears regularly on DU.
23 posted on 05/13/2004 6:53:13 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: maica
Why doesn't Peggy learn about survival? She's waiting for the government to take her by the hand? Seize the day, Peg. It's up to you to find safe harbor.
24 posted on 05/13/2004 6:56:56 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota
You are right about that - what a lame ending to her column!!! She was raised a democrat, however.
25 posted on 05/13/2004 7:01:17 AM PDT by maica (Member of Republican Attack Machine, RAM, previously known as the VRWC)
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To: kattracks
I'm surprised that some Democrats are still talking about this poll because it's the greatest idea ever gifted to the Republicans.

What better way than a poll like this to nail liberals down with precise answers without an escape...can't be crafty and nuanced when you can only choose from allowed answers.

If 90% of the "fox viewers" hung up on the pollster because they saw the trap, that need not be mentioned in the poll results.

Imagine a poll that divides the respondents up into groups according to their favorite news outlet asking questions such as:

"Which US President initiated a policy of arming Saddam with biological weapons?"

a) Richard Nixon
b) Jimmy Carter
c) Ronald Reagan
d) George Bush

Well, that might not be a real good one because even Fox viewers probably don't know it was Jimmy. Here's a better question with easy to predict responses:

"Has Saddam ever possessed and used weapons of mass destruction?"

a)yes
b)no

Or my favorite, you can effectively define the news outlets by nailing down the ideas of their viewers:

"In that Saddam's WMDs were unaccounted for as of January-2003, which assumption should have been made?"

a) Saddam no longer had any WMDs and was not a threat
b) Saddam still had WMDs and was a threat

We need to thank the liberals for this weapon they have gifted us...now we must aim it at them.
26 posted on 05/13/2004 7:58:14 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Your hangup doesn't get counted as a vote, Mr.Jennings)
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To: bayourod
"Why can't this skinny arsed vixen write in words we can all read?"

Why is it empty-headed Americans suffering from terminal cranio-rectumitis (is that word too big?) don't know their own language?

And Coulter may be thin but she is still a FOX and a very bright one at that, but some individuals are apparently too obtuse to appreciate that. (Those words too big also?)
27 posted on 05/13/2004 8:36:57 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: maica
The old liberal media which is so skilled at understanding nuances can't understand Bush because he always says precisely what he means.

He stated five reasons for invading Iraq, but never said Iraq had WMD at that time. One of the reasons was Iraq's failure to comply with UN resolutions requiring Iraq to say what happened to the WMD that they previously had.

Bush might not have tried very hard to correct the media's war drum beating that focused almost exclusively on WMD stockpiles, but Bush himself never said that stockpiles existed or that the reason for our invasion was to destroy those stockpiles.

I have my own opinion as to the primary reasons we invaded, starting with the need to demonstrate to other nations that there was a new sheriff in town who wouldn't hesitate to change regimes. Libya got the message.

28 posted on 05/13/2004 12:37:51 PM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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To: kattracks
I just love Anne!
29 posted on 05/13/2004 12:41:04 PM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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To: bayourod
You must be a Fox viewer. *LOL* to have gotten those messages from what our President said were his reasons.

I also got those same points from him.

If we can all get through these next 6 months to the election - which has to be a blowout so the dems don't bring in the lawyers for months - I will be soothed by a throwaway line I heard the President say at one of those fancy dinners in DC. Ozzy Osbourne was a guest, and when the President acknowledged his presence, Oxxy called out "why didn't the president let his hair grow long like Ozzy (or words to that effect).

Without missing a beat, President Bush called back across the room:

"Second term, Ozzy, second term."


I have a feeling that some of the business associates of Libya are going to feel the effects of the second term President.. I am looking forward to it.
30 posted on 05/13/2004 1:00:15 PM PDT by maica (Member of Republican Attack Machine, RAM, previously known as the VRWC)
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To: Travis McGee; SAMWolf; Grampa Dave; Light Speed
CIA "missed" Ames' purchase of half-mil house w/o mortgage--asked its Bogota station if Rosario's family had money. On the basis of yet more wrong information from a single bad informant, Ames was allowed to continue spying for the KGB for four more years.

FBI did not inform Freeh of Kindred Spirit for two years (unless we look at Freeh's denial as CYA). Even then, it did not pursue investigation of Chinese espionage so as to not offend PRC at the time Freeh was trying to establish legat in Beijing.

CIA and FBI have not been merely inept, but stunningly, breathtakingly inept--even criminally inept.

See also the lengthy Colleen Rowley letter in the Bill Gertz Breakdown appendix: mistakes were made, and for calling us on them, we will crush you.

31 posted on 05/13/2004 7:15:15 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
FoxFan ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

32 posted on 05/13/2004 9:30:52 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: RaceBannon; Doctor Raoul; Dutchy; Cacique

Ann C ping!


33 posted on 05/13/2004 9:31:35 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: PhilDragoo
Surely an intricate web..since the days of CIA director Allan Dulles.

Dulles is connected to so many plays involving Corporate interest..American and non American.

The play still running into the Reagen Admin in regards to Central America.

The play has Congress going in several directions....sanctioning monies.....then Dec 18, 1986 CIA Director William Casey, operated on for a `` brain tumor '' and lost the power of speech.

President Reagen has trouble with the CIA....residuals left over from President Carter and his CIA Director, Stansfield Turner?

Almost in mirror now...President Bush has trouble with the CIA and FBI..residuals from the Days of Emperor Clintonius.

Have read some essays on Allan Dulles...they paint him a dark figure yes..but..He would not allow America to be compromised on many levels of power and Geostrategic projection.

Certainly what went down in Carters admin and Clintons would not have been received well by Allan Dulles.

President Reagen rescued Americas economy....Emperor Clinton rides on these fortunes....

The fact that sophisticated American Military technology is now being brokered overseas in his Presidency.....with little players getting caught with their hand in the kitty hints at CIA/FBI assistance....hints that U.S. State Dept is not as dumb to event occurances as spin managers breif Congress and Senate in hearings.

Today..trouble for President Bush on many levels...
Wolfowitz..who can't keep his mouth shut..aka."Wolfowitz Admits War Was About Oil"...Wolfowitz: "Iraq Swims in a Sea of Oil"...Wolfowitz: "WMDs Were Only a Bureaucratic Reason for War"...

Richard Perle and Persian wonderboy..Ahmed Chalabi.

This is the damage at the top end...
Clearly President bush is a gracious leader....these have let him down.....down the garden path.

34 posted on 05/13/2004 10:29:02 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
Clinton gave Bernard L. Schwartz of Loral and C. Michael Armstrong of Hughes a waiver/get-out-of-jail-card for their sending the 200-page fax in 1995 which the 1997 May declassified DOD report said "damaged national security".

The Casey thing as strange as the Colby canoe trip.

I credit Dulles with the Bay of Pigs plan--which JFK caused to fail by not allowing the final B-26 raid on the three T-33s.

And I credit Dulles with helping JFK to meet Allah.

My take on Tenet has been: boot, ass; rinse, repeat.

I'd like to see Woolsey brought back, Woolsey who had the vision to see Ramzi Yousef as an Iraqi agent, as did Laurie Mylroie.

Deutch bragged his intent at the outset was to "f--k them".

Which he did, with the compromise of 17,000 files (kind of an Ames to the tenth power).

And Deutch tried to pull the walk-in W-88 story by claiming the walk-in was under PRC control.

Fold into the mix the out and out pricks like Joseph Clymer Wilson and his wife the infamous Valerie Plame and it cries out for a Clorox hose-down.

Turner fired 820 case officers October 31, 1977, and Tenet says it will take five years to rebuild CIA.

That's if the Churches and Torricellis and Kerrys are kept in plastic handcuffs with women's underwear on their heads.

And we can sell that video to help defray the increased CIA budget. It'll be our and Victoria's Secret.

35 posted on 05/13/2004 11:26:40 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: maica
"the concept of WMD hurting Americans and America in America is a very real concern"

Yes they are, especially dirty bombs. And I've no doubt Iraq had them (not dirty bombs) and would have slipped them into the terrorist network if they thought it would serve their purpose.

But WMD in my opinion were far down the list of reasons to invade Iraq. Our WAR is Against Terrorist who don't recognize national borders (most of which were arbitrarily drawn by infidels anyway) and neither should we. Our enemy is radical Islamofacists of all stripes and wherever they stays.

In my opinion, the real reasons we invaded Iraq could not have been publicly stated but were:

1. We had to demonstrate to Muslim governments that we have the will to take out any regime that accommodates (appeases) terrorists. These regimes need to fear us more than they fear the terrorists. We showed them what we would do to Saddam, who probably accommodated terrorists less than they did, to make them realize how precarious their position is.

2. We needed to demonstrate that national borders were as meaningless to us as they are to the terrorists. We couldn't just run al Qaeda out of Afghanistan to have then regroup in Syria or Iran. We have to cut off all their routs of retreat. We had to make the other Muslim nations take up the welcome mat. By attacking Iraq we have made Osama too hot for any nation to give him sanctuary. He's cowering in the caves of Pakistan where he's even unwelcomed instead of living in luxury in Iran.

3. Iraq was our geographical battlefield of choice. Incrementally suited to initiate our "dominoes"/"staging ground" long range anti-terrorist strategy. Easy access from our allies in the region and closer bomber support bases in Europe. Ideally suited terrain for our ground based Army vehicles. Already saturated by spy satellites and on-the-ground info from UN inspectors and Israeli intelligence.

4. Iraq was our political battlefield of choice.Saddam had no support from any other Muslim nation (except France). They all secretly wanted us to take him out and only made perfunctory protests to our invasion. We had the UN resolutions to hang our hat on, making our invasion legal under international law. Saddam had little internal support. He was a Christian until the 80s and put his own political ambitions to be the next Arab prophet above the welfare of his people.

5. Invading Iraq gave notice to our "allies" (France, Germany & Russia) that we weren't going to let them cuckold us when it came to our security. And also put Muslim nations on notice that our European or other allies can't protect them from our preemption policy.

6. Oil Iraq has the second largest reserve in the world. We had to replace Saddam in order to get those reserves into the international stream. Eventually lower oil prices will more than pay for our cost of the war.

This doesn't mean that WMD aren't important. Except for dirty bombs, I just don't think that they are that much of a threat. I fear freighters and trucks carrying fertilizer much more than poisonous gasses, anthrax, long range scuds etc... Remember the WMD of 9/11? box-cutters.

36 posted on 05/13/2004 11:55:43 PM PDT by bayourod (Was Kerry one of the 17 Congressmen to whom Lawson sent torture pictures in March?)
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To: PhilDragoo
GreaT post Phil...you have an excellent memory and are great at point forming : )

CIA..Pentagon and Ahmed Chalabi....also known as a..WTF?

Former Crown Prince Hassan of Jordan, who appointed Chalabi, then 32 years old, as one of the founding fathers of a bank called the Petra Bank, which expanded rapidly to emerge as the second largest commercial bank of Jordan.

In August,1989, Chalabi fell foul of the late King Hussein of Jordan, who had him sacked after the bank had incurred huge liabilities and was on the verge of collapse. This, however, did not affect his personal friendship with Prince Hassan, who allegedly helped him to escape from Jordan before the Police, on the orders of King Hussein, could arrest him for investigation into the alleged mismanagement of the affairs of the bank. It was alleged that during his association with the bank he had embezzled nearly US $ 70 million and spirited it away in secret Swiss bank accounts. He was tried in absentia by a Jordanian court and reportedly sentenced to imprisonment on a charge of embezzlement.

Shift:

In the beginning of 1995, Woolsey had to resign as the Director of the CIA after he came in for strong criticism in the Congress for his alleged mismanagement of the investigation into the penetration of the KGB, the Soviet intelligence agency, and its sueccessor Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia, into the CIA, through Aldrich Ames, a senior CIA officer, who was subsequently found guilty and sentenced to long terms of imprisonment.

Question..why did things go south so quickly for Woolsey?

Did Chalabi betray Woolsey?... Clinton had Woolsey dead to rights on Chalabi..Like a gift on a platter.

There were allegations of Chalabi failing to submit the details of the expenditure incurred by him out of the huge amounts given to him by the CIA when Woolsey was its chief.
And this was given to Clinton by **The Pentagon!!!

Chalabi's still in..Woolsey gone..WTF! Despite this, the Clinton Administration made the CIA fund a 1996 foray by the INC and other ant-Saddam groups into Northern Iraq which ended in a fiasco. Chalabi's forecasts that the Iraqi troops deployed in Northern Iraq would desert en masse and join the INC proved wrong. Saddam managed to win over the Kurdistan Democratic Party, which made a separate peace with him Differences between the INC and the Iraqi National Accord, a group of CIA-backed former Iraqi Army officers, led to their killing each other. Gen. Anthony Zinni, who was the Commanding Officer of the US Central Command, under Clinton, used to describe this as the Iraqi Bay of Pigs and sarcastically refer to Chalabi as " that silk-suited, Rolex-wearing guy from London."

37 posted on 05/14/2004 12:06:51 AM PDT by Light Speed
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To: MissAmericanPie
"Liberals cannot compete with right wing radio, or Fox News, so eventually they will destroy them. They are making every attempt right now in fact."

That would be a problem, assuming that we all turn back to CNN and Air America if they manage to take out Rush and FOX News.

In America we have a system...if someone takes out a leader, their is a chain of command, and the next one steps up to take the lead.

It is my opinions that the far liberal left are not true Americans in the patriotic sense, as they mock everything and every value Americans ever held. They mock decency, marriage, families, and they mock the Constitution.

For every wall they can't manage to climb, they tear down the wall - God forbid they go to the trouble to learn to scale that wall.

The clintons, kennedys (and now the kerrys) are trying to systematically dismantled the most success society ever devised by human beings, and it's all for their amusement and quest for power.

One can be almost assured that any wrong the left accuses the right of doing, the left has already done it, or are in the process of doing it, and are trying to deflect attention away from themselves.

The basic prerequisite for be a member and/or leader in the democRATic part, is the ability to lie; not to lie convincingly but just be able to lie without looking guilty.

Everything I have ever heard about the way the communists take over a society - or how they boasted they will "conquer America", is being said and played out today, by the leftists in the world.

America has always been a leader that other countries look up to and try to emulate; however, since the left took over the media, the other countries think what the media says is the way we are; a lot of countries may hate us now, as reported - but, if they don't live here, what basis to they have of passing an opinion about us do they have, except the American media?

Listening to any of the network news heads, or CNN, is a modern version of "Tokyo Rose"...mostly propaganda designed to tug at the heartstrings of the ignorant, who were bypassed on an education by a liberal school system.

Everything that is currently wrong with America, stems directly from the left, and they have the nerve to still try to get candidates elected in this country.

I pray that we see a monumental landslide for George Bush in November to send a message to these destroyers of America on the left, that we are tired of their crap.

George W. Bush might not be perfect, but he is at least moral, has conviction, and is light years ahead of anything remotely labeld "democRAT".

Yes, I hate the left, they are trying to destroy mine and my grandchildrens America just as surely as the terrorists.
38 posted on 05/14/2004 1:44:14 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: kattracks

Another great column. And thanks for the pic.


39 posted on 05/14/2004 2:11:37 AM PDT by Rocky (To the 9/11 Commission: It was Al Qaeda, stupid!)
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To: FrankR

Well said. But we need to learn how to fight just as dirty. One individual liberal can cause so much damage. Fox News at times interviews a DJ called "Mad Cow", yesterday he was relating how one individual keeps trying to remove him from the air by filing repeatedly with the FCC, and the guy is winning evidently.

This fellow needs to be named and exposed, his business shunned, his life made as uncomfortable as possible, or, better still, we need to file with the FCC to have the alphabet soup news media removed from the air due to flagrant communist propaganda. As individuals we need to get more involved and give as bad as we get. This is war. A different kind of war but war none the less.

Who has called their congressman demanding the Supreme Court justices be impeached for abuse of power, or failing to uphold their office by using euro-law rather than the constitution to decide cases?


40 posted on 05/14/2004 5:55:17 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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