Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland
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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.
I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.
Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read
Doug,
Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.
It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.
So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?
I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?
I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.
--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)
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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.
Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names
Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.
Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.
The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.
The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.
On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.
It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."
The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).
Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."
That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.
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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?
I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.
Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?
I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.
Don't play stupid. Or maybe...just maybe...you aren't playing.
Look up the word "barratry."
Too bad you folks don't follow that doctrine. Buck up and keep your damn hands off my money, guns and suv...don't tell me how to educate my kid, don't tell me where to get my health care, don't tell me how to invest for retirement
Walk the walk
We are all accountable, to some degree, for acts committed by organizations that we voluntarily belong to. The appropriate ways to mitigate this responsibility are to speak out publicly, renounce one's membership, form alternate organizations. I went to a Quaker college, and I'm quite familiar with the ways you can protest actions you disagree with. I see nothing of this going on in Islam.
And why is that? Are the "moderate" Muslims afraid to speak out? If so, then my suspicions are grounded.
And in what direction are they headed? Christians have committed atrocities, but they have done so without any authority in the words of Jesus. It is fairly easy to find modern moral sentiments in the words of Jesus, and fairly difficult to find any justification for misbehavior. I find no moral governor in Islam, nothing central to the life or teaching of Mohammed that puts the brakes on endless war.
Walk the walk
Yeppers,
And most of all,
Don't tell me how to think, what to believe and how to feel.
Stay outta my head.
There are no 'correct conclusions'...this is a liberal fallacy.
There are only opinions.
Liberals are a disease that threaten the sovereignty of this nation, who would welcome the UN as the world authority. Its disgusting, despicably and if you folks continue to push, you might not like the result.
Liberals weaken this nation. They practice race division and class warfare. They support terrorists like the PLO, and attack our nation witht their words in a time of war. I am sick of liberals, islamists and I have had enough.
You are clearly an idiot, and a pimp for muslim terrorists.
You are totally wrong. All killing is not bad. I can find thousands of instances of good killings. From the thug that would break into your home to slit the throats of your family, to the destruction of fascists dictators and terrorists.
Killing is an excellent way to keep from being killed. In fact and at times, it is the only way to keep from being killed.
Killing Bin Laden is good, Killing Berg and Pearle and the mother with her four children in Gaza is bad. Killing terrorists is very good, killing American soldiers is very bad.
Are you really this naive?
I'm sorry, I don't have time for your games and ignorance.
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