The Rosenbergs' Son Condemns the War on Terror

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 5/12/04 | Shawn Macomber

[ambrose]

Fruit doesn't fall far from the tree, it would seem..

[Prime Choice]

Fruit doesn't fall far from the tree, it would seem.

No doubt. Hmm...maybe there's a case for arguing that Leftist leanings are a genetic defect? 8 o

[Jeff Chandler]

The nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

[backhoe]

The Rosenberg Case- Spies, Scapegoats, or something inbetween?

[Iscool]

The offspring of two of the most notorious traitors to the United States has always been a major influence in my life (NOT)...

Who gives a flip what this character thinks or says and even moreso, what kind of institution would even consider having this person in to speak to anyone???

All the nuts aren't in the trees OR on the ground...

[Chi-townChief]

Oh. I thought they were Irving Rosenberg from 6th grade.

[rbmillerjr]

later read bump

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Verona Cables = Venona Cables

Cf. http://www.nsa.gov/venona/index.cfm

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

As a wise person said on a previous post about a Nova special on the Rosenbergs ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/772181/posts):

Airing Ethel Rosenberg's son's claim that his mother was "murdered in cold blood by this government" is unspeakably callous. He in not a disinterested party and is hardly in a position to be objective. His mother's life might have been spared if she, or her husband, had named other Soviet agents. Some find her behavior heroic. But if she loved her son, won't she have been more concerned about assuring that he had a home to grow up in and less in the progress of international communism? The future will work itself out, without the exertions of any one of us, but our children need us uniquely to ensure their future. As parents, the Rosenbergs were failures. Sacrificing your children to some messianic ego trip is no more noble than sacrificing them to drugs or alcohol. But don't tell her son that.

[finnigan2]

Being a jew, Meeripol would still be spouting this "solidarity forever" crud as an Al Qaeda rep. happily slit his throat from ear to ear on live feed video for the benefit of it's Arab street audience.
The only thing keeping him from this fate is the US Armed Forces. He is a fool.

[jamaksin]

And lest we forget ... the United States shipped to the USSR, in the Spring of 1943, ten of tons of nuclear materiel - including enriched uranium. This is long before the Trinity Test.

Yup, those shipments were done under the aegis of the Lend-Lease Program ... Harry "the Hop" Hopkins (aka - alter ego to FDR) was the director of said Lend-Lease program.

Known now ... via Venona documents ... Hopkins was USSR agent "No. 19."

So it goes ... and also recall that Ted Hall was never prosecuted. And who was/is "Quantum?"

[vandykelastone]

Breeding always tells, doesn't it.

[11th Earl of Mar]

“There are several chilling parallels between (McCarthyism) then and anti-terrorism now,” Meeropol told the University of Maryland students. “Don't think that Big Brother isn't watching”

Uh....

I think we all agree that 911 happened because somebody WASN'T watching.

Sheesh!

[OldFriend]

Well well well. Guess he'll be getting an invitation to Chappaquiddick any day now.

[OldFriend]

Oops, make that Chappaqua! my apologies.

[buffyt]

Activist against "Violence Against Women" as if ANYONE is FOR that?????

Does he ever admit that his parents were GUILTY????

[buffyt]

http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/pubaffairs/newsletter/99summer/venona.html

Several books have been published recently about the penetration of the U.S. government by Soviet intelligence operations during the 1930s and the 1940s. The coauthors of one of those books, Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, visited the Hoover Institution on June 14 to discuss their book and its revelations.

The Venona project was a U.S. government operation to intercept and decrypt coded messages sent during World War II between the Soviet embassies in America and Moscow. John Earl Haynes, a twentieth-century political historian at the Library of Congress, and Harvey Klehr, a professor at Emory University in Atlanta, examined Venona documents as well as recently opened Soviet archives in Russia. They concluded that Soviet espionage during World War II was thorough and hostile.

“The Venona documents provide a guide to an extraordinarily pervasive campaign by the Soviet Union to obtain secrets from the United States,” Klehr said, adding that the effort and money devoted to the spying was “remarkable.”

Only recently declassified, the Venona files reveal not only the extent of Soviet spying but also the close ties between Soviet intelligence and the American Communist Party, despite the surveil-lance of the Communists by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other security agencies.

“Enthused with idealism and a com-mitment to a better world, Communists often approached espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union as a calling,” Klehr said. “Unlike spies largely motivated by a desire for personal monetary gain and or coerced by fear of exposure, Communists were reliable and dependable.”

The decrypted Venona cables confirm the guilt of Julius Rosenberg, whose code name was “Liberal” and who gave atomic secrets from the Manhattan Project to the Soviet Union.

Haynes credited Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.) with getting the Venona files declassified.

Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America is published by Yale University Press. Haynes and Klehr are also coauthors of The Soviet World of American Communism (with Kyrill M. Anderson) and The Secret World of American Communism (with Fridrikh I. Firsov).

[buffyt]

The VENONA project http://www.cvni.net/radio/nsnl/nsnl6venona.html

On 1 February 1943, the U.S. Army's Signal Intelligence Service, a forerunner of the National Security Agency, began a small, very secret program, later codenamed VENONA. The object of the VENONA program was to examine and possibly exploit, encrypted Soviet diplomatic communications. These messages had been accumulated by the Signal Intelligence Service (later renamed the U.S. Army Signal Security Agency and commonly called "Arlington Hall" after the Virginia location of its headquarters) since 1939 but had not been studied previously. Miss Gene Grabeel, a young Signal Intelligence Service employee, who had been a school teacher only weeks earlier, started the project.

The accumulated message traffic comprised an unsorted collection of thousands of Soviet diplomatic telegrams that had been sent from Moscow to certain of its diplomatic missions and from those missions to Moscow. During the first months of the project, Arlington Hall analysts sorted the traffic by diplomatic mission and by cryptographic system or subscriber.

Initial analysis indicated that five cryptographic systems, later determined to be employed by different subscribers, were in use between Moscow and a number of Soviet overseas missions. It also became apparent that one system involved trade matters, especially Lend-Lease. The other four systems appeared to involve the Soviet Foreign Ministry in Moscow in communication with its missions abroad.

The complete information, including hundreds of real messages, can be found on the site of the National Security Agency. Interesting stuff! Check URL.

[Sam the Sham]

“Enthused with idealism and a com-mitment to a better world, Communists often approached espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union as a calling,” Klehr said. “Unlike spies largely motivated by a desire for personal monetary gain and or coerced by fear of exposure, Communists were reliable and dependable.”

No nation in the history of espionage had better human assets than the Soviet Union between 1933 and 1956. Thousands of highly educated, highly placed people all over the world who served the Soviet Union out of pure idealism. The Red Orchestra, Richard Sorge, the Cambridge Group, an as yet undiscovered Oxford Group, etc.

A downside of espionage is that the people you are dealing with are generally traitors and resentful failures and degenerates or are using you to serve their own agenda (like Chalabi) so what they say must be viewed with extreme caution. Idealists, on the other hand, will do their best to give you anything they can.