[redrock]

Well...if I get banned for this...it's been fun.

[Junior]

The only reason they could ban you would be for using apostrophes in plurals. Other than that, you haven't said anything the rest of us don't support.

[varon]

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[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

MURDER OF NICK BERG:
A RE-ENACTMENT OF THE MURDER OF JEW KA'B bin AL-ASRAF ON ORDERS OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (dung be upon him)
FOR SPEAKING ILL OF MUHAMMAD (dbup)

Hadith Sahih Bukhari
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.269

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 269:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."

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Volume 4, Book 52, Number 270:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has really hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Muhammad bin Maslama said, "O Allah's Apostle! Do you like me to kill him?" He replied in the affirmative. So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to him (i.e. Ka'b) and said, "This person (i.e. the Prophet) has put us to task and asked us for charity." Ka'b replied, "By Allah, you will get tired of him." Muhammad said to him, "We have followed him, so we dislike to leave him till we see the end of his affair." Muhammad bin Maslama went on talking to him in this way till he got the chance to kill him.

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Volume 4, Book 52, Number 271:
Narrated Jabir:

The Prophet said, "Who is ready to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf (i.e. a Jew)." Muhammad bin Maslama replied, "Do you like me to kill him?" The Prophet replied in the affirmative. Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say what I like." The Prophet replied, "I do (i.e. allow you)."

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Hadith Sahih Muslim
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html#019.4436

Chapter 41: THE MURDER OF KA'B B. ASHRAF, (THE EVIL GENIUS) OF THE JEWS

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Book 019, Number 4436:
It has been narrated on the authority of Jabir that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger. Muhammad b. Maslama said: Messenger of Allah, do you wish that I should kill him? He said: Yes. He said: Permit me to talk (to him in the way I deem fit). He said: Talk (as you like). So, Muhammad b. Maslama came to Ka'b and talked to him, referred to the old friendship between them and said: This man (i. e. the Holy Prophet) has made up his mind to collect charity (from us) and this has put us to a great hardship. When be heard this, Ka'b said: By God, you will be put to more trouble by him. Muhammad b. Maslama said: No doubt, now we have become his followers and we do not like to forsake him until we see what turn his affairs will take. I want that you should give me a loan. He said: What will you mortgage? He said: What do you want? He said: Pledge me your women. He said: You are the most handsome of the Arabs; should we pledge our women to you? He said: Pledge me your children. He said: The son of one of us may abuse us saying that he was pledged for two wasqs of dates, but we can pledge you (cur) weapons. He said: All right. Then Muhammad b. Maslama promised that he would come to him with Harith, Abu 'Abs b. Jabr and Abbad b. Bishr. So they came and called upon him at night. He came down to them. Sufyan says that all the narrators except 'Amr have stated that his wife said: I hear a voice which sounds like the voice of murder. He said: It is only Muhammad b. Maslama and his foster-brother, Abu Na'ila. When a gentleman is called at night even it to be pierced with a spear, he should respond to the call. Muhammad said to his companions: As he comes down, I will extend my hands towards his head and when I hold him fast, you should do your job. So when he came down and he was holding his cloak under his arm, they said to him: We sense from you a very fine smell. He said: Yes, I have with me a mistress who is the most scented of the women of Arabia. He said: Allow me to smell (the scent on your head). He said: Yes, you may smell. So he caught it and smelt. Then he said: Allow me to do so (once again). He then held his head fast and said to his companions: Do your job. And they killed him.

[used2BDem]

Great post; I agree with you whole heartedly.

[ClearBlueSky]

There IS no 'moderate Islam'. That's like saying there is 'mostly dead'. You are or you aren't.
There is only silent,complicit, unwilling to actually fight but wanting an Islamic world, Islam and the outright, put Islam into violent action Islam.
The honest Muslims are the terrorists. They are showing the world the true, letter-of-the-law Islam.
The others are watching TV, and sitting in mosques-IN THIS COUNTRY- hoping Islam triumphs.

[mafree]

Very good rant. Thanks.

[F.J. Mitchell]

You are right on the money redrock.

[CyberAnt]

Bravo Redrock .. I've been thinking the same thing too. Actually, the panel on Fox was just discussing it - saying some of the same things.

[Tunehead54]

I really don't have time to cover every post on this thread but I'm in agreeance with you that "moderate" islam better get off the fence or face the same doom and destruction radical islam deserves.

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Although I'm not from that state - the motto "Live Free or Die" has a certain unexplainable attraction to it. ;-)

And for anybody that thinks "agreeance" is not a word just FReepmail your address and I'll drop by to "discuss" the issue. ;-)

[redrock]

Saturday Morning BUMP.

redrock

[Ann Archy]

Islam is the anti-Christ....imho

[Nowhere Man]

Right on! - BUMP!