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Mark Steyn: Torturous Apology
The Jerusalem Post ^ | May 11, 2004 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/11/2004 4:54:05 PM PDT by quidnunc

'Just look at the way US army reservist Lynndie England holds the leash of the naked, bearded Iraqi," writes Robert Fisk, famed Middle East correspondent of the London Independent.

"Take a close look at the leather strap, the pain on the prisoner's face. No sadistic movie could outdo the damage of this image. In September 2001, the planes smashed into the buildings; today, Lynndie smashes to pieces our entire morality with just one tug on the leash."

Hmm. Sounds like Fiskie's the one straining at the leash here. You can practically hear him panting. Down, boy.

For a week now, readers have been e-mailing me crowing that I haven't got the guts to confront the truth about Abu Ghraib prison. As one correspondent put it, "I was looking forward to reading about how the moronic lefty press should instead be praising those heroic American soldiers bringing freedom, and saving us from those barbaric Arabs. I thought at least that you'd say that you'd have done the same thing in their position."

Well, no, actually. Making a homoerotic pyramid of fetching young Iraqi men naked with their bottoms in the air is not my idea of a good time, unless it's 48 hours from the Turner Prize deadline at London's Tate Gallery and I'm all out of ideas for this year's installation.

So I didn't write about it last week, because I didn't have anything much to say. I'm revolted by the abuse of prisoners, but evidently not as revolted as Fiskie and Co., so best to let 'em off the leash and go capering round the yard.

-snip-

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraqipow; marksteyn
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1 posted on 05/11/2004 4:54:06 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
No sadistic movie could outdo the damage of this image.

Wrong again, Fisk.

2 posted on 05/11/2004 4:56:25 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (How many times can a flip flop flip before it completely flops and flips out?)
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To: quidnunc
Too bad this is excerpted. I don't like to join things. It brings too many cookies.
3 posted on 05/11/2004 4:57:39 PM PDT by narby (Iraq prison abuse looks like Frat house hazing to me.)
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To: quidnunc
Making a homoerotic pyramid of fetching young Iraqi men naked with their bottoms in the air is not my idea of a good time, unless it's 48 hours from the Turner Prize deadline at London's Tate Gallery and I'm all out of ideas for this year's installation.

British version of a Maplethorp exhibit, I assume....

4 posted on 05/11/2004 4:57:46 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: quidnunc
Fisk can watch the beheading video looped for hours...He will feel better I am sure.
5 posted on 05/11/2004 4:57:50 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: quidnunc
Sorry to miss another article. Perhaps Tolik can help.
6 posted on 05/11/2004 4:59:04 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: My2Cents
My2Cents wrote: (Making a homoerotic pyramid of fetching young Iraqi men naked with their bottoms in the air is not my idea of a good time, unless it's 48 hours from the Turner Prize deadline at London's Tate Gallery and I'm all out of ideas for this year's installation.) British version of a Maplethorp exhibit, I assume....

It's a prize for contempory art.

Last year it was awarded for a dark room with a single light bulb burniung in it.

7 posted on 05/11/2004 5:00:28 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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What does Fisk have to say now?
8 posted on 05/11/2004 5:10:17 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: moonhawk
As for the allegedly seething Arab street, my advice to it would be......not to respond to the pictures by saying things like, "They wanted us to feel as though we were women, the way women feel, and this is the worst insult, to feel like a woman."

These Muslims have some serious hang-ups, even the ones who are not Islamofascists.

10 posted on 05/11/2004 5:27:36 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Pokey78
Steyn Ping for ya...

"I can't believe I posted the whole thing!"
11 posted on 05/11/2004 5:29:11 PM PDT by moonhawk (Actually, I'm voting FOR John Kerry....Before I vote AGAINST him.)
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To: Pokey78
Sorry...For some reason my posting of the whole article was pulled...(comment #9)
12 posted on 05/11/2004 5:34:07 PM PDT by moonhawk (Actually, I'm voting FOR John Kerry....Before I vote AGAINST him.)
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To: Admin Moderator
How come my post was pulled?

Thanks
13 posted on 05/11/2004 5:38:55 PM PDT by moonhawk (Actually, I'm voting FOR John Kerry....Before I vote AGAINST him.)
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To: quidnunc
Well, no, actually. Making a homoerotic pyramid of fetching young Iraqi men naked with their bottoms in the air is not my idea of a good time, unless it's 48 hours from the Turner Prize deadline at London's Tate Gallery and I'm all out of ideas for this year's installation.

I love Mark Steyn!
14 posted on 05/11/2004 5:42:47 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: moonhawk; Admin Moderator
Are full reposts from the Jerusalem Post no longer allowed?
15 posted on 05/11/2004 5:47:45 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: narby; MEG33
check your freepmail
16 posted on 05/11/2004 5:52:07 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (What Is Man That Thou Art Mindful of Him)
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To: narby
Here is a good excerpt:

"As a political scandal, it's already over. Historians will disagree about the precise moment it turned into a damp squib. Perhaps it was when Democratic blowhard Joe Biden demanded of Don Rumsfeld: "What did he know and when did he know it?" Or perhaps it was when the Democrats' leader in the Senate, Tom Daschle, launched into a long, whiney complaint about why he and his colleagues hadn't been kept informed by the Pentagon. "Why were we not told in a classified briefing why this happened, and that it happened at all?" he huffed. "That is inexcusable; it's an outrage."
17 posted on 05/11/2004 7:22:25 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: moonhawk
These days we can't post the full article from most publications -- excerpt only, and some don't even let us post an excerpt, only title and link.

There are lists of these publications, but there are so many, virtually everything is on the list.
18 posted on 05/11/2004 7:53:21 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: expatpat
Just imagine if the prisoners had been forced to wear burkas for, say, 30 days or so, night and day. Not a bad idea, IMHO.
19 posted on 05/11/2004 8:35:24 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: quidnunc
We keep being told that we don't understand the middle eastern mind, and I guess that's true. It's also true that middle easterners don't understand the American mind.

We ARE sorry for what happened, and we don't mind apologizing for the bad behavior of a dozen or so of our people. So, we apologized, now let it drop! There is a difference between an apology and groveling and we don't do grovel.

If there's a problem, we fix it and then forget it. The reason we are a successful country is because we look forward, we only use the past as a point of reference.

20 posted on 05/11/2004 8:56:07 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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