Warner: Photos Were to Intimidate Inmates

AP ^ | May 11, 2004

[Leroy S. Mort]

Warner said that?

[princess leah]

It's way past time to dump the Senate branch of our Government - they are useless piles of dung weighing down our society with their communistic agendas and self-serving egos!

[Highest Authority]

Let's swap Teddy Kennedy to the islamofasciasts!

[Dilbert56]

His comments contradict all of today's testimony. Our Congress is a ship of fools. Time for these "icon" Byrd, Warner, Specter, Kennedy, Harkin to retire and get some working brains in there.

[Feiny]

F the Red Cross! Where was their outrage for Saddam & his real torture chambers & rape rooms? I don't remember hearing them make any statements about that stuff.

[Ramius]

Uh... how is it useful to "embarrass them" if they all have their heads covered with hoods?

Seems Warner hasn't been paying attention.

[12B]

Uh... how is it useful to "embarrass them" if they all have their heads covered with hoods?

The guys with their faces in other guys' crotches were not wearing sandbags.

[lepton]

And why would the MIs not keep control over the pictures if they'd directed them. MI is notoriously and naturally interested in keeping control of information. Was there any set of files for them, either with MI, or with the MPs?

[Dales]

Taguba testified that tactical control of the Abu Ghraib facility had been taken away from Karpinski and turned over to a military intelligence colonel. Karpinski retained control over other Iraqi prisons in her command, and Taguba conceded that they remained largely free of abuse.

That suggests to me that the truly responsible party is somewhere below Karpinski's level. Were it her level, it would have been at other prisons under her command. Were it higher up, it would have been at those and even more.

[AZamericonnie]

I clearly heard Taguba say today that this photos were taked with personal cameras by the implicated individuals. Where did he come up with this!

[Leroy S. Mort]

I wanna find a transcript of today's hearing. I watched most of it and what the AP reports here is NOT what I heard.

[eddie willers]

I watched most of it and what the AP reports here is NOT what I heard.

Spin, spin, spin.

[solitas]

U.S. military personnel took photos of Iraqi prisoners in sexually humiliating poses in an apparent effort to obtain leverage for future interrogations, a leading senator said Tuesday.

WHY couldn't they have just showed 'em the piles of corpses left over from the firefights? If _I_ was a prisoner, that would'a 'leveraged' the hell outta ME: embarrassment is no where nearly as effective as a life-threat.

[pgkdan]

Uh... how is it useful to "embarrass them" if they all have their heads covered with hoods?

They were going to be shown to other prisoners to soften them up for interrogation. 'Talk to us or this is what's in store for you'.

[Sacajaweau]

What you're saying is illogical. That group of 6 or 7 soldiers were at THAT prison, not at another prison. The case of England and her "lets do it together" boyfriend, (I think Graner) is a good example of people not acting alone but as a small group of folks "doing something stupid and not in anyones best interest". (It was wrong and self-serving).

[Sacajaweau]

The Red Cross goes in and talks to prisoners confidentially. Then, they rely on the word of these (mostly scumbags) who told them the USA made a mistake, yada yada, yada, but forgot to tell them things about themselves which might alter the resulting report.

In other words, they F**** LIE LIKE HELL.

[WOSG]

" ``Senators ... are in a virtual state of shock about the beheading,'' Warner said after returning to the committee hearing from the Senate floor."

WHY?

Dont they know the terrorists are capable of things like this?

[Dales]

Uh, you are saying pretty much what I was saying but in a different way.

The left has been trying to say this was systematic and was policy.

If it was, it would have been elsewhere. And if it was condoned high up, it would have been elsewhere under whatever point the condoning existed.

[Trinity_Tx]

"" ``Senators ... are in a virtual state of shock about the beheading,..."

Why indeed.
As if they didn't know that publicizing this would result in all that it has... up to and including the savage and cruel beheading of our men like Berg.

Yes, we needed to get to the bottom of the nonsense going on at Abu Ghraib and stop it. But doing so did not require airing the dirty laundry to the world.

So I'd go so far as to say that those who chose to expose it have more blood on their hands than anyone who might have ordered some "humiliation" of prisoners under interrogation.

[RGSpincich]

All things considered, what our guys did was child's play.