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Investigators find plenty of bogus degrees at top levels of government
Associated Press ^

Posted on 05/11/2004 8:49:08 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

WASHINGTON -- At least 28 senior-level federal employees in eight agencies have bogus college degrees, including three managers at the office that oversees nuclear weapons safety, congressional investigators have found.

The problem is likely even bigger, mainly because the government has no uniform way to check whether employees' alma maters are ``diploma mills'' that require little, if any, academic work, the General Accounting Office reported.

The findings by the investigative arm of Congress were to be presented to a Senate committee Tuesday.

An earlier GAO report revealed how easy it is to buy a degree from a diploma mill; this one shows high-level federal workers securing such degrees at taxpayer expense. The tally was $169,471 at just two of the schools.

The colleges in question often use names similar to those of accredited schools and offer degrees largely on a person's ``life experience.'' Some simply sell degrees for a flat fee.

Among those with bogus degrees in the GAO review were three workers with emergency operations roles and security clearances at the National Nuclear Security Administration, part of the Department of Energy.

One of those workers paid $5,000 for a master's degree from LaSalle University, an unaccredited school, the report said. He attended no classes, took no tests and told the GAO his degree was ``a joke.''

Other senior government employees with bogus degrees worked for the departments of Education, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security, Transportation and Veterans Affairs, as well as the Small Business Administration and the Office of Personnel Management.

Under law, the federal government may only pay tuition for academic degree training at schools sanctioned by a recognized accrediting body.

In contacting representatives of three diploma mills, an undercover GAO investigator found they would not permit enrolling in individual courses. Yet they were willing to change their billing practices to receive federal money, dividing the flat fee they charged by the number of courses a student needed to appear as if a per-course fee was charged.

The number of bogus degrees and the amount of tax dollars spent on them are likely understated across the government because of incomplete records and verifications, the GAO said.

Three unaccredited schools - Pacific Western University, California Coast University and Kennedy-Western University - provided data showing that 463 of their students were federal employees. Most of those listed were in the Department of Defense. The report did not name employees.

The investigation took place from July 2003 through February.

The Senate Governmental Affairs Committee planned hearings Tuesday and Wednesday on diploma mills and the taxpayer's role in subsidizing them.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: gubmint; waronsometerror

1 posted on 05/11/2004 8:49:09 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr
How many have been fired? My guess, zero.
2 posted on 05/11/2004 8:51:30 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: wallcrawlr
The problem is likely even bigger, mainly because the government has no uniform way to check whether employees' alma maters are ``diploma mills'' that require little, if any, academic work, the General Accounting Office reported.

In a non-government world, this “uniform way to check” diplomas could be designed and implemented in about two hours by an intern.

3 posted on 05/11/2004 8:53:28 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: wallcrawlr
Some of the credited schools are not much better.
4 posted on 05/11/2004 8:58:30 AM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: dead
It takes less than that.

1. Request a transcript with degree posted.
2. Transcripts usually have accrediting bodies listed on them.
3. If not it is posted on their website.

Woo hoo.
5 posted on 05/11/2004 9:09:43 AM PDT by PrincessB
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To: wallcrawlr
This kind of thing has been rampant for years. I recall hearing one estimate that suggested (back in the day when an MBA had more perceived value) that 2/3's of the MBA's claimed on resumes do not exist. As one who earned three University degrees (and worked my way through graduate school and law school) I resent the fact that corporate and government sector HR departments are too damn lazy to verify academic credentials. There is a Gresham's law of credentials in that bad (or fake) drive out the good.
6 posted on 05/11/2004 9:19:41 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: wallcrawlr
Before anyone misplaces their outrage, it is important to understand the demand for these phony degrees. Your government has a compensation system that rewards individuals for attaining ever higher levels of education, regardless of its impact on performance. Many private sector organizations do the same thing.

As long as companies (or governments) are willing to pay for worthless pieces of paper, people will obtain them. The corrective measure is to pay people what they are worth as a practical matter, not based on some notion of "higher" education.

7 posted on 05/11/2004 9:29:22 AM PDT by Mr. Bird (Ain't the beer cold!)
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To: Mr. Bird
"what they are worth as a practical matter

Huh? Would you explain this please?

If you are attempting to say that one shouldn't go to college at all..try getting a job with only a h.s. diploma.

8 posted on 05/11/2004 9:43:12 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: wallcrawlr
When it became apparent that many of the higher level employees of the Houston Independent School District had degrees from the diploma mills The District took immediate action. They prohibited the release of any information about the education of the employees. I guess that took care of that problem! Many employees in States, Cities and School Districts have phoney degrees because they get additional pay for these "higher qualifications."
9 posted on 05/11/2004 9:51:18 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: wallcrawlr
I'd love to see someone take the time to review the academic credentials of our 535 elected senators and representatives. Should prove interesting. By the way they act, on might suppose that they all have PhD's. Just out of curiosity, I would look at Joe Biden - the great plagiarizer - to review his background. While we're at it, let's check their criminal records just for fun.
10 posted on 05/11/2004 9:54:49 AM PDT by USMA '71
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To: wallcrawlr
I resent you folks calling into question the value of my academic degree

signed

The Right Honorable Reverend ChilePepper

lawfully ordained minister of the Universal Life Church.

11 posted on 05/11/2004 9:55:56 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: wallcrawlr
And the back ground checks for security clearances on these people mean what? Oh, the people doing the checks also have phony degrees, I see.
12 posted on 05/11/2004 10:04:38 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Phantom Lord
How many have been fired? My guess, zero.

You are probably correct. If the employee were found to have used a phony degree to gain employment through a misrepresentation then they would likely be terminated.

However, most federal jobs do not require a degree at the entry level. How can there be senior managers out there without degrees? Easy, most worked their way up through the ranks over long careers.

I think what GAO is going on about (hard to tell from the article) is that the government subsidized some of these non-accredited degrees, which was in violation of regulations.

This was a continuation of education program for federal employees, the idea being better-educated employees work more efficiently. In reality it’s just another government subsidy to the education establishment, because most federal employees would not seek additional education if they had to pay for it. Why, because it does not necessarily translate into additional earning potential in the federal sector.

I will wager money that it was the “accredited” education establishment that got GAO to investigate this in the first place because they were loosing money.

13 posted on 05/11/2004 10:21:37 AM PDT by usurper
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To: wallcrawlr
Right. But how manby Federal jobs actually require academic training? The job description says so, but who writes the job description. It's just a wishlist.
14 posted on 05/11/2004 10:24:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Windsong
Huh? Would you explain this please?

What I mean is pay the person what they are actually worth; do not start tacking on pay increases simply because they got another degree.

If I have an analyst with a BS working for me at $75k/year, I'm saying that the work they are doing is worth that kind of money. If they come to me next week and say, "hey boss, just grabbed an MBA", I shouldn't automatically increase their pay. This is what is happening in government.

Certainly, higher degrees can add value to an employee's worth; but it is not axiomatic. Think about it: should an auto mechanic charge higher rates if he has a Ph.D. in Archaeology?

15 posted on 05/11/2004 10:31:27 AM PDT by Mr. Bird (Ain't the beer cold!)
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To: wallcrawlr
That's why I keep copies of my transcript at home. Dept of the Army asked me for official transcripts. I'm appalled they don't bother calling up the registrars' numbers listed thereupon to verify at least one or two as a spot check.
16 posted on 05/11/2004 10:33:25 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (LA Times = Izvestia West)
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To: Taxbilly
I teach math at an accredited university. And it offers something called a Bachelor of General Studies, which is designed for working people to put together a bachelor's degree that fits their backgrounds. You have to take 120 hours, but 30 hours might be "self-acquired competencies". There are no major requirements for this degree: you have to take 30 hours at the junior/senior level but the program offers courses in things like "leadership" that serve the purpose.
17 posted on 05/11/2004 10:44:25 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: wallcrawlr
I understand from people close to the source that the current head of NASA Lewis got caught with a fake degree and got promoted anyway. Because he was so diverse.

That's a little thing ya can't point out without getting called names, I guess. But the fact is that many employers, especially within the guv'mint, have been so anxious to hire a "diverse" staff, that little things like checking out credentials just got tossed by the wayside.

18 posted on 05/11/2004 10:47:13 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: megatherium
At least they call it a BG and it would give heads up to an employer.
19 posted on 05/11/2004 11:11:23 AM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: Mr. Bird
"Certainly, higher degrees can add value to an employee's worth; but it is not axiomatic. Think about it: should an auto mechanic charge higher rates if he has a Ph.D. in Archaeology?"

I agree with your assessment, although I did not know this was a fairly widespread problem in government. I would *think* its not as much a problem in private industry. Doesn't it follow that the people who are giving a raise to their employees had a raise coming anyway? The MBA is just a convienent tool for one to finally have the self-confidence to ask for a deserved raise in such situations, IMHO. It can't hurt, but I don't see legislatures making this hard law anytime in the next century.

Yet another reason to get the gubermint out of education (thanks Jimmuh Cahter).

20 posted on 05/11/2004 3:09:47 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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