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Even among self-proclaimed, churchgoing "Christians".

On reflection, THAT probably IS hyperbole - but not as much as you might think. It might however be a statistical residue of the fact that many good women get snapped up at an early age and by ~30, the percentage of those still single is skewed in favor of the "Sex and the City" types.

Plenty of decent guys have asked these women out, hoping for a Christian relationship leading, if all goes well, to marriage --only to find themselves fending off seduction attempts after a few dates! ("But... we met in Bible study, I didn't expect her to throw herself at me!"). I had this happen more times than I care to count, and I'm currently counselling a guy who got blindsided by such a woman shortly after he got saved, and unfortunately gave into her.... sabotaged his spiritual life for 3 years before he broke free.

I've read your freeper profile and we've talked before -- I don't think YOU are one of these. THere's a couple others here (cyborg, rintense) that also come across as great women. In no way do I intend to slam you. In fact, the perfidy of these other women makes your sort look all the better by comparison. But, I am talking about real experiences when I make these rants -- as Rush puts it, "I don't make this stuff up!"

I understand your view, and thanks for the props. (Altho I am over 30 and not taken - yet, altho that may start to happen now, but that's another story. 1 of the reasons I'm not taken - "too picky"; I want interesting as well as moral conservative guys. Too many are too eh, boring to me.)

I certainly agree there are too many idiot women out there - but so are the men. Some are basically good people, but they're stupid. That includes the fact that they desparately want "love" or to have a girl/guy just so they can say they do (so they're not like me!), and will just take anything as long as s/he seems to hang around them. They get married at 23 and are divorced at 33 - so getting married on the younger side is not a sign either of great desirability or interest in marriage per se.

Anyway, I thought your post was pretty well reasoned but there was just an aura of "all the women are dumb/asinine" while men apparently get a free pass and are not responsible at all for their sad stories. They make choices, too, and aren't just commodities.