[muawiyah]

Regarding that post, you ask somebody to remember "how many", and then you name a number of things where presumably you have the numbers to go with your questions.

So, start telling us the numbers and give us your references for them. I have Bill Hosogawa's book, and they're all in there, particularly about the Kibei. Let's see if you know what you're talking about.

[junta]

Talk to professor McGrath since I reference his articles in "Chronicles."