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To: DefCon
Chechens didnt blow up buses or parades or captured hostages until russians decided to drive tanks into Grozny and kill about 100,000 Chechens and pretty much leveled the city.

Dont throw Chechen guerilas into the same pot as Hezbolah or Hamas. Their Islam is very far from Islam practised in middleast. They drink wine, women dont wear scarfs to cover their faces, imams have next to no power. They are more of an extremely nationalist people(kindof like Irish and IRA) rather then your typical muslim terrorists. If russians werent so stupid, they would have never went into Grozny and would have saved lives of tons fo their own people. Its not like Chechens were attacking anyone. Their mafia was active in russia but it was a criminal organisation that had no political goals and did not attack russian establishment.

The "president" who got killed was figure head elected in the elections rigged by russians. Good riddance.
13 posted on 05/09/2004 5:45:16 AM PDT by dimk
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No doubt Russia will immediately take this matter to the UN to get the backing of the Security Council before taking any action in response

/sarcasm
14 posted on 05/09/2004 5:50:09 AM PDT by Da Mav
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To: dimk
"...Dont throw Chechen guerilas into the same pot as Hezbolah or Hamas..."
...They drink wine, women dont wear scarfs to cover their faces..."
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Gee, I guess you're right, that makes their actions acceptable.

You hoser.
15 posted on 05/09/2004 5:57:24 AM PDT by DefCon
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To: dimk
errr.....ummmm yeah....I can totally see how it is acceptable to blow up innocent people in apartment buildings in Moscow as a political statement... your bent.
21 posted on 05/09/2004 6:45:26 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: dimk
Chechens didnt blow up buses or parades or captured hostages until russians decided to drive tanks into Grozny

Wrong - Russian moved the troops back into Chechnya AFTER multiple hostage taking (for profit), blowing up apartment building and the invasion of Dagestan.

22 posted on 05/09/2004 6:46:29 AM PDT by A. Pole (<SARCASM> The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.</S>)
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To: dimk
Chechens didnt blow up buses or parades or captured hostages until russians decided to drive tanks into Grozny and kill about 100,000 Chechens and pretty much leveled the city.
Wrong. Time to reread your history books.

Dont throw Chechen guerilas into the same pot as Hezbolah or Hamas.
Why not? They all are trying to change the actions of a government by killing innocent people.

They drink wine, women dont wear scarfs to cover their faces, imams have next to no power.
So... Just because they don't follow the extreme Islamofacist of the middle East, does this make them better people or less Islamic?

They are more of an extremely nationalist people(kindof like Irish and IRA) rather then your typical muslim terrorists.
Only because the Saudis have been funding and controlling their operations for the past decade. At one time before Saudi involvement, I could understand how you could have sympathy for them. Now, not one bit!!!

If russians werent so stupid, they would have never went into Grozny and would have saved lives of tons fo their own people.

Do you have any idea what a independent nation of Chechyna would mean for the Caucasus region? You think a Taliban controlled Afghanistan was bad... This would be only the first country to fall to radical Islam. Others would soon follow, including nations that are majority Christian.

Its not like Chechens were attacking anyone.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!

Their mafia was active in russia but it was a criminal organisation that had no political goals and did not attack russian establishment.

Where do you come up with this crap! Have you spent any time in Russia at all?

The "president" who got killed was figure head elected in the elections rigged by russians. Good riddance.
Wow, the killing of a person who could bring peace to the region is a good thing? Are you an indy.media poster???

33 posted on 05/09/2004 7:55:08 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: dimk
women dont wear scarfs to cover their faces,

Oh,really? Have you forgotten?

Female Islamic Terrorist back right, The Moscow Theater.

36 posted on 05/09/2004 9:00:39 AM PDT by The Turbanator (Vote Democrat They have what it takes, to take what you have.)
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To: dimk
Its not like Chechens were attacking anyone.

You think we were born yesterday?

37 posted on 05/09/2004 10:40:00 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: dimk
Oh you mean after Chechin scum ethnic clease 450,000 Russians, Georgians, Armenaians and Jews and 400,000 own Chechin from northern Tarek lands, which never Chechin till Stalin, Communists and Chechins kill off all Tarek Cossaks and land given to them...to include Grozny, city built by Russian/Georgian.

Oh, and in that Oklahoma Bombing justified by US invasion of Waco Texas, same difference. I love how moral limp Canadians so judgemental. I guess such is easy when such as you just allow every islamic free rent and visa as long as they move along to kill others then you. Canada is new world France...oh wait, it almost is is it not? Hahah, how fitting.

Dont throw Chechen guerilas into the same pot as Hezbolah or Hamas

Why not? They proclaime solidarity and send soldiers. Chechin blew up American ship off Yemen. Chechin sit in Cuba. Chechin die on Pakistani border...but what is it about such as you to make excuse. Chechin women wear head scarf same as Palistinian and Egyptian...no not eyes and face but head. Still kill same. Chechin drink as much as Bosnian and Albanian muslim and still kill same as they.

Russia have every right to keep every inch of own land. Just because Canada ready to break up when ever whoring French decide to bulk, does not mean other nations such weakness.

Its not like Chechens were attacking anyone.

Yes how convinient you miss 3 apartment bombings, Victory day parade bombing, several villages of Daghistan exterminated by Basheyov invasion one month before 2nd War start, Basheyov (who was Mashkidov defense minister) attack and murder people of maternity hospital in Ingushia...how funny you miss all that. Bet you say same of Jews...if only they not go to Jerusalem, Palies would just live with them in peace.

Is it French culture or genetics that make all who have so much in their country to become political whores and Islamic useful idiots?

39 posted on 05/09/2004 1:18:42 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: dimk
"Chechens didn't blow up buses or parades or captured hostages until Russians decided to drive tanks into Grozny and kill about 100,000 Chechens and pretty much leveled the city."

Russians solutions are sometimes a little uncivilized, but don't forget, that Chechnya is a part of Russia.

"If russians weren't so stupid, they would have never went into Grozny and would have saved lives of tons fo their own people. Its not like Chechens were attacking anyone"

Chechens wanted to get independent country in illegal way, so the war has started.

"The "president" who got killed was figure head elected in the elections rigged by Russians. Good riddance."

They shouldn't have their own president, they should have Putin, because they are part of Russia.
41 posted on 05/09/2004 1:20:31 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: dimk
My friend, you should read the Azzam Fatwa, the declaration of war on you and me. Google search it. Read it. Understand it. Chechnya is the front line of the war on you and the war on me and my religion. We are condemned by these islamist murderers.
47 posted on 05/09/2004 1:27:13 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: dimk
The "president" who got killed was figure head elected in the elections rigged by russians. Good riddance.

This poster is a very sick person! Looks like he (she?) gets their opinions from smae Ted Turner (Mr. Jane Fonda!)of CNN who never met a Terrorist he did'nt symphathize with! President Bush has allready condemmed the Wahhabi Terrorists who did this. Is dimk a supporter of al-Quaida, it sure sounds like it!!!

52 posted on 05/09/2004 3:44:12 PM PDT by zinochka (God bless President George Bush and Vladimir Putin!)
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