[norcalvet]

It amazes me how at the same time these people can rattle off all the damage the Marines have done to them, while saying they have been victorious. The writer says "I weep at the cost." Does he? It is truly sad how they have redefined their own death and destruction as some sort of victory. They use images and graphic descriptions of death and loss to manipulate the sensitivities of weak minds, yet it is that death and destruction which they seem to seek. Who but God could say if it is a moral victory - if anything the victory is political, and short-lived. But whatever it is it certainly isn't a military victory, or a human one.

Sadly, they are eager to fight again, in which case they will only suffer more death and destruction. Fortunately for them, we aren't the Nazis some describe us as. They should ask the Polish how the Nazis laid seige to a city, and compare that to the ability we unquestionably possess to make "blitzkrieg" seem like a French word.

[gandalftb]

Islam is steeped in martyrdom.

Somebody asked the Prophet: "What is this weakness?" He said: "The love of the world and the dislike of death." (Abu Dawud)

Reaching the nirvana of appreciating death seems to give them the self esteem most of us get from accomplishment.