[ninenot]

Vigneron is NOT a liberal. Your take is about 180 degrees from the truth, which prompts the question: are you a Catholic, a schismatic, or a Prot?

If you're either of the latter two, why are you opening your mouth?

[sinkspur]

Cicero's a Catholic, ninenot. And you ought to be ashamed for your reaction.

You don't think this is destined to be Taj Mahoney II?

It certainly mimics the LA Cathedral, complete with columbarium and bookstore.

[pbear8]

Vigneron is NOT a liberal.

I've seen his writings in the diocesan newspaper and at a priest's funeral where he used the 's' word (sin),which, as you know is rare these days.

I know that the libs are up in arms because he has kept out VOT(un)F from a conference.

These are all good signs and I am hoping for the best, but I know that he wants this cathedral (as did his predecessor of unhappy memory) and I think it is as ugly as sin and not becoming of a Catholic place of worship.