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Concerned About International White Supremacist Groups?
The Washington Dispatch ^ | 05 May 2004 | Greg Lewis

Posted on 05/07/2004 8:14:30 PM PDT by MegaSilver

Jayna Davis's recent book, The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing, convincingly presents the case that Timothy McVeigh colluded with radical Islamists in destroying the Murra Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995, at the cost of 170 American lives. One question certainly involves the degree of concern we should harbor that other white supremacist political groups, in this country and around the world, might find political, if not philosophical, allies in radical Islamist militants. Radical politics does indeed strange bedfellows make.

At first glance, of course, the question seems absurd. To take one example among many: The British National Party (BNP) abhors above all things the incursion into English working class society of immigrants of color, particularly Muslim immigrants. Unfortunately, like the National Front, the more openly racist party from which they were spun off, the BNP's objections to the influence such Islamic populations exert, particularly on foundering English working class towns, tend to focus on race and ethnicity, with political concerns taking an acknowledged but nonetheless secondary place in their hierarchy of important issues. Their race-based policies take the form of recommending that people of color be prohibited from immigrating to Britain and that these people should be repatriated, forcibly if necessary, to their countries of origin.

Make no mistake about it: There is a dramatic resurgence of race-based political organizations throughout the world today. And note also that the racialist principles of such groups often tend to get obscured in the political causes they support. It's relatively easy, in the United States and abroad, to recruit allies in support of tightening immigration regulations and strictly enforcing the regulations that exist. It's an important issue in America today, especially in light of the terrorist threats our nation faces and the relative laxity that characterizes both immigration quota enforcement and the very procedures that have been put in place to insure that those quotas are honored.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fascism; neofascism; whitesupremacy
The Vlaams Blok has been described as "a hardline nationalist group with active backing from the French National Front," and as being "into cultural protectionism and want[ing] immigrants to be forced to learn Flemish." I guess my quarrel with that last would be, why not have them learn English, a truly useful language around the globe?

Umm... because they're in Belgium, not England?

But you'll also encounter "StormFront," a blatantly Fascist/Aryan-supremacist international organization dedicated, in its own words, to being a "resource for those courageous men and women fighting to preserve their White Western culture, ideals, and freedom of speech and association. . . . " Assuming you can get past the brutal Nazi graphics adorning the site (which I can't), I don't have any problem with any of the above verbiage as long as you don't include the word "white."

Not that I have a problem with people of different skin color who want to assimilate into my ancestors' culture--not by ANY means--but is it really a heinous crime to want to preserve one's ancestors' genetic legacy?

Obviously, the problem arises when people begin to discriminate solely based on another's skin color. Bobby Jindal, for example, is an all-American boy, a solid Roman Catholic, and a Conservative Republican--of Indian ancestry. The fact that he has Indian ancestry does not at all preclude him from being able to participate in the American system, as he has assimilated quite remarkably.

I guess groups like the BNP would be a lot less offensive if they downplayed skin color and stressed culture a bit more.

1 posted on 05/07/2004 8:14:30 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
The nexus both groups revolve around is hatred of the Jews. In that regard, they have a commonality that allows them mutual cooperation.
2 posted on 05/07/2004 8:43:11 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (I used to support Kerry. Then I changed my political philosophy. Now I support Kerry.)
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To: MegaSilver
I guess groups like the BNP would be a lot less offensive if they downplayed skin color and stressed culture a bit more.

I disagree. An analogy can be made of the KKK, which has tried to change it's image, and failed. Once a group is tainted, the game is over

The other problem is that these groups draw many members who have no concerns about preserving culture. They just hate other races. It is those members who are the most vocal, most visible and who define the group as a whole, right or wrong.

3 posted on 05/07/2004 8:47:49 PM PDT by sharktrager (The greatest strength of our Republic is that the people get the government they deserve.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
The nexus both groups revolve around is hatred of the Jews.

Yes. The Jews seem to be the "elephant in the living room". It's too bad, not only for the Jews, but for the rest of us. The Jews are also the "canary's in the coal mine".

4 posted on 05/07/2004 8:49:51 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: elbucko
very true
5 posted on 05/07/2004 8:51:46 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: sharktrager
They just hate other races.

I agree with your assessment, but IMHO the active dynamic is not really "race", but "group". It is the perceived group that one appears to belong to that another group will hate. Blacks sold other blacks to white slavers. The Japanese, an Asian race committed atrocities against other Asians. The Germans attacked other white Europeans. If race was the impetus, these phenomena would not likely occur.

Human beings simply seem to hate each other for as small a reason as the kind of tennis shoes one wears.

6 posted on 05/07/2004 8:58:17 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Spann_Tillman
Actually, I'm more concerned with the muslims right now.

So am I. Along with the bitter taste of hate for them.

8 posted on 05/07/2004 10:08:21 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Spann_Tillman
Would you be worried if the White supremacist groups got hold of a rental truck?
9 posted on 05/07/2004 10:44:55 PM PDT by Fishing-guy (AL)
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To: MegaSilver
Of course, there is report that Jindal lost because some so-called Republicans voted Democratic in Northern Louisiana, because they did not want to see an Indian-American as governor.
10 posted on 05/07/2004 10:48:15 PM PDT by Fishing-guy (AL)
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Of course, there is report that Jindal lost because some so-called Republicans voted Democratic in Northern Louisiana, because they did not want to see an Indian-American as governor.

Yes; if that was so, that was CLEARLY racism.

But concern for the "mosaic" of immigrants watering down one's own culture is NOT racist. Unfortunately, the Big Media makes us think it is, so respectable people with legitimate concerns shy away from "alternative" political parties and nothing ever gets done...

11 posted on 05/07/2004 10:53:47 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: MegaSilver
There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's heritage and culture. That's why we celebrate St. Patrick's Day, Cinco de Mayo, etc.

It is the mixing of the different cultures and races that makes this country great and colorful.
12 posted on 05/07/2004 11:05:51 PM PDT by Fishing-guy (AL)
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To: MegaSilver
I go to school at tulane in new orleans la and desperately hoped for jindal to win. i don't understand why people continually want to take race into consideration. race does not determine ideology and it is ideology that we wish to understand and debate against people of all races, ethnicities, yadda yadda sociology term etc. I am a white jew but don't vote for people based on race. I agree that immigrants should assimilate into the culture of the country that they CHOSE to reside in. yet i am frightened that people wish to use race as a measurement as part of any sort of academic or political cause
13 posted on 05/08/2004 12:35:39 AM PDT by Messiah712
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To: Messiah712
Welcome aboard!
14 posted on 05/08/2004 4:42:58 AM PDT by Fred Hayek
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