Parents of Terri Schindler-Schiavo Told to Pay to See Their Daughter

The Terri Schindler Foundation ^ | May 7, 2004 | Terri Foundation

[Ohioan from Florida]

Her body, however, can't live on its own without hours of activity of people outside herself. That is the indication, I think.

If you believe that this is the indicator of when we are expected to die, then I bet there are millions of disabled people who would beg to differ with you!

[EternalVigilance]

Can her body maintain on its own?

Can a baby's?

Your argument is specious.

[EternalVigilance]

I don't egg; I ask hard questions of partisans of any stripe.

No you don't. You ask easy ones, leading though they may be.

You have been provided with simple answers repeatedly.

[William Terrell]

And a person today might say they would want to live, and feel differently when in the situation.

[pc93]

Yes. There are those who will have a G-tube for the rest of their lives, but that doesn't include the future now does it? It's very possible that things could change in that arena in the future now isn't it? Living wills were not a big thing back then esp. for people of her age range. Under the U.S. Constitution, etc. we are already guaranteed Life, Liberty, and Happiness. I fail to see what your questions have to do with Terri's parents being told they have to pay to see their daughter.

[Ohioan from Florida]

I ask hard questions of partisans of any stripe.

I'm going to ask you a hard question, and I expect a response, since you want answers from each of us. Of course, if you don't, then I'll take that as an admission of not having an answer.

Do you think that if God deemed that it was Terri's time to die, that there would be any thing man could do that would keep her alive? In other words, do you think man could ultimately trump God's will to take Terri home with Him?

[William Terrell]

Don't you think the fact that Terri is still alive is a statement from her that she wants to live?

Not without help at the level of basic functions at staying alive. If the constant help stopped, she would die.

I'd say, using your assumptions, that if she wanted to live, she would be able to without help.

[William Terrell]

And your point is?

I've given you enough hints. What do you think it is?

[pc93]

Tell that to Christopher Reeves.

[pc93]

What does it matter what I think you think your point is?

[William Terrell]

If you consider food and water to be artificial, then I would say we would all die were the same to be withheld from each of us.

Food and water is not artificial. It is the means of administering it (can she do it herself, or even take it from the spoon of another person) and on whose request (that is, at her request or not) that are the artificial parts.

[supercat]

Food and water is not artificial. It is the means of administering it (can she do it herself, or even take it from the spoon of another person) and on whose request (that is, at her request or not) that are the artificial parts.

She might be able to, were it not for Michael's prohibition against spoon feeding.

[Politicalmom]

Well, gee, I guess we should have a judge decree that it is time to kill Christopher Reeve, since he can't feed himself either.

[William Terrell]

If you believe that this is the indicator of when we are expected to die, then I bet there are millions of disabled people who would beg to differ with you!

They would differ with me. Those millions of disabled people, they have no conscious life, cannot think, read or entertain themsleves, denied the pleasure of such simple things as eating? They are locked within their minds?

May we are in the last days.

Rev 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

[William Terrell]

Tell that to Christopher Reeves.

Oh, now, list me the things Christopher Reeve can do that Terri can't. Will it be a short listor a long list? Can she write and produce a movie?

[William Terrell]

What does it matter what I think you think your point is?

Absolutely not in the least. But you keep responding.

[floriduh voter]

Jeb's Attorney in Schiavo v. Bush is one of the best attorneys around. Ken Conner gave a much better presentation before Judge Baird than George Felos did. Felos drones on like a buzzing insect. Too much meditation could do that I spose.

[William Terrell]

Might be able to. Even something so basic.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Hey, Connor was better than Felos on Greta the other night, too! All Felos does is speak legalese type of talk! Maybe he just bores Greer to sleep and that's how he gets his rulings. Or maybe it's MIND-control, or some other weird thing that happens when you delve into "I am that I am. I am that I am." I'm surprised that ole Felos doesn't occasionally belt out that he thinks he IS God!

[supercat]

Might be able to. Even something so basic.

If Michael had allowed bona fide efforts to be made to teach Terri to take food orally, then you might possibly have something of a point. But if someone is locked in a room, and nobody is allowed to bring them food or water, that person will die in short order regardless of how healthy they may have been when first imprisoned.