Waiting for Lynndie’s side of the story (Since when is humiliation worse than mutilation?)

Charleston Daily Mail ^ | Friday May 07, 2004 | Don Surber

[NCjim]

Mark for later...

[sarasota]

At last, a "saner voice" is heard.

[Mr. Mojo]

I want to hear Unlucky Lynndie's side of the story before joining the parade.

Me too.

[HairOfTheDog]

I want to hear Unlucky Lynndie's side of the story before joining the parade.

I don't. I hope to never see her again. She and her buddies, and whoever else was in on it, have done us a great dis-service with their bizarre games.

[HairOfTheDog]

I wonder how many of them tortured, raped and killed their countrymen at that very same Abu Ghraib prison.

Oh good. Your standards are now low enough that being 'not worse then them' is good enough?

Support of the mission in Iraq means nothing unless we only support the actions that further that mission, and abhor behavior like this from the few. I respect the soldiers we have over there enough to be sorry this crap has drowned out their good efforts. And I respect them enough to draw a distinction between them and these twits.

[JustAnAmerican]

"I don't. I hope to never see her again. She and her buddies, and whoever else was in on it, have done us a great dis-service with their bizarre games."

Personally I would be looking for the Idiot/Idiots that leaked the pictures to begin with. And if anything they did got any information out of these "Alleged"(gotta appease the ^%^&##& Lawyers), that might have prevented another 9/11 type event, well then thats another story isn't it?

[sailor4321]

Actually, when you read the Army's own report of investigation on this situation, her behavior is quite understandable. Unacceptable, as stated in the report, but understandable.

Regrettably, the report cannot address the fact that just having women in uniform and in positions of authority over men is a humiliation to Arab men.

[Lokibob]

She doesn't stand a chance. Not only is she making fun of the Arabs, but she is exposing them to second hand cigarette smoke too. Oh, the horrors!!!

[jerod]

Unlucky Lynndie's folks are blaming Bush. LOL

[BunnySlippers]

She and her buddies, and whoever else was in on it, have done us a great dis-service with their bizarre games.

Agreed. And furher endangering Americans and others who are still being held hostage.

[HairOfTheDog]

The person who leaked pictures of hideous behavior is still not worse than the hideous behavior. They posed for these pictures. What did they expect?

[van_erwin]

This is a war. These were not a bunch of boy scouts picked up for helping too many grannies cross the street. Haider Sabbar Abed, the prisoner who says he was "humiliated," admits that he was treated well until he and a group of other prisoners beat up a guard.

These prisoners were humiliated, and they suffered, and they were put through the wringer. I agree. These prisoners were also picked up because OUR TROOPS are being attacked by terrorists.

They are sending 13 year old children to die as suicide bombers, hiding in mosques, killing and mutilating civilians because the soldiers are too hard to fight. If our soldiers have to use extreme methods to find out where the next terrorist attack is going to be, or who is behind it, then GOD BLESS them.

The only regret I have is in how our PR is being handled. I agree that our troops are endangered now because the Arab press is using this to fan the flames of hatred. We could be playing the propagandists just like Al Jazeera, God knows there's plenty of photos we could show. The fact is, they use rape, mutilation, amputation and mass executions. We scare and embarass them. It ain't the same thing.

[GODFEARINGWOMAN]

Justifying Lynndie's behavior is ridiculous. I have friends in Iraq right now and the actions of these few soldiers have tarnished all the hard work and goodwill they are doing. Not in my eyes of course, but the media has had a field day with the pictures. I would like to hear her side of the story but I doubt it would make me any less disgusted by her actions and the actions of her cohorts.

[HairOfTheDog]

This is a war.

We are at war with them.

We are not them.

We don't treat prisoners this way, and we would be mortified if those prisoners were our own. What is shown there is not the way civilized people behave.

[Sunshine Sister]

Exactly!

[sarasota]

So Arab men are "humiliated" by women whom they consider the lesser species? I give that a big "so what?"

[Parmy]

Well, I do want to hear her story. As far as this is concerned, if there were no pictures you and everyone else wouldn't be so outraged.

Furthermore, this is WAR. War isn't pretty. War isn't nice. War isn't a neighborhood, child's soccer game.

War is deadly. People die. And, the object is to have less of your own people die than the enemy's. In order to have that happen, you have to know things about your enemy. That knowledge saves your soldier's lives.

Frankly, one gets that information however one can.

[JustAnAmerican]

I would have to disagree with you on that aspect. Even if the acts themselves are considered abhorrent by folks, it should have still been delt with in the Military chain of command(even as slow as it sometimes can be), the person/persons who leaked these photos did so because they knew the kind of effect it would have.

I dare say purely political reasons were involved. The person/persons who leaked these photos did more harm to this country then the people who did the acts themselves. Although I guess one good unintended consequence is coming out of this.

Everyone I have spoken to so far, even a few Dems, are sick and tired of this story and are starting to get more then a little pissed of at the folks who continuously bring it up. They are starting to realize that these acts do not even come close to the barbaric acts being committed against Americans and others over there and in the rest of the world.

[Travis McGee]