Women's role in abuse shocks Arabs

Washington Times ^ | 5/07/04 | Uwe Siemon-Netto,UPI

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The participation of female soldiers in the mistreatment of Iraqi men at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison was probably the most dangerous aspect of the affair, Arab and American experts on Islam said yesterday.

They warned of reprisals by the victims' tribes as a possible religious obligation.

[Robert_Paulson2]

"is simply not acceptable in our culture"

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tough crap ali.
your "culture" is over.

bush should not have apologized.
rummy shoud give no quarter.

HUMILIATION is GOOD for terrorist islamics.
The pictures should be on the front page of every paper in the middle east. Whatever terrorises them, we should be advertising with adds on al jazeera.

Middle eastern muslim men NEED a LOT more humiliation to get them DOWN to the dogpile level where they belong. All of them should be shouting "thank you mistress, can you pull the strap again, please." instead of "allah akbar," on their way to blow up a busload of israeli children.

My only complaint is this humiliation did not go far enough.

[Robert_Paulson2]

Thank you for pointing that out.

The moralists whining over a little s and m humiliation for the religious blow-up fanatics over in the wonderful world of islam... rather makes me sick.

If anything these gals did not go far enough... to crush the male egos of these islamic dogs.

bush was wrong to apologize.
it was a good and useful tactic, that brought fear to the enemy.

Folks in the homo side of Portland, would pay big money to have a woman treat them this way... and even more for the pictures...

bfd.

[ladylib]

I dunno Bella Bru, it's just a feeling I have. I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.

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"In our faith it is strictly forbidden to have women confront naked men," said Sheik Muhammad Muhammad Ali, a leading Shi'ite scholar. "And I know that even in America this is not considered normal."

No co-ed dorms at the US colleges the Sheik attends?

[FITZ]

Funny, outside of Iraq a man being led around on a leash by a woman in a uniform is called a fetish.

It's probably a pretty good fetish inside Iraq just as much. We don't know all went on inside that prison --- these guys might have been taunting the women guards --- or tempting them to do just what they did. Arab men are far from Puritanic --- any of us who attended college where Arabs attended saw the types of women the Arab men picked up. I'm pretty sure they found most of their American "girlfriends" in bars.

[FITZ]

Weren't Saddams very own sons into porno? Pretty heavily I think.

[ladylib]

Guess my "twisted mind" was wrong. Trash bag England knows who the father of her child is. He's a co-conspirator.

"England, 21, faces four allegations, according to a statement from the XVIII Airborne Corps at Fort Bragg.

She is accused of "assaulting Iraqi detainees on multiple occasions;" conspiring with another soldier, Spc. Charles Graner, (THE BOYFRIEND) to mistreat the prisoners; committing an indecent act; and committing acts "that were prejudicial to good order and discipline and were of nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces through her mistreatment of Iraqi detainees."

The charges must be taken up in Article 32 investigation, a process similar to a civilian grand jury, before they can be sent to a general court-martial.

No lawyer has been appointed yet to represent England, according to Col. Billy Buckner, a spokesman for the division. She may also hire a civilian lawyer, he said.

England was reassigned to a military police unit at Fort Bragg when she returned from Iraq and will continue her duties, the Corps statement said. Her family said Friday that she is four months pregnant with Graner's child.

Both were members of the 372nd Military Police Company, based in Cumberland, Md."

[Bella_Bru]

I guess he's trash then as well, right? Or is he just a poor ole' all American boy?

[ladylib]

Probably trash too from what I've read. Not a nice guy. You know, "birds of a feather flock together."

[Dan from Michigan]

All I got to say is this:

Where the F**K was the outrage when our guys were getting burned? Where the f**k were all these bohemian pukes?

And to quote from the movie Tango and Cash, "and don't flatter yourself, peewee."