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Bush 'sorry for humiliation' of Iraqi prisoners
CNN ^ | 05/06/2004 | Breaking

Posted on 05/06/2004 11:24:57 AM PDT by Glenn

President Bushj says he is sorry for the humiliation suffered by Iraqi prisoners at the hands of U.S. troops. Details soon.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apology; bush; iraqiipow
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
> the President is the highest elected representative of our country and the CinC of its military.

You make a good point about being CinC, in addition to POTUS. Thus, in the sense of chain of command, he does bear the burden in that sense.
1,021 posted on 05/07/2004 4:55:29 AM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: Glenn
The think that still stiks in my craw is who the hell was stupid enough to say "Let's take photographs".

No pictures = No proof = No Problem.
1,022 posted on 05/07/2004 5:09:21 AM PDT by TexanAmerican
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To: Big Horn
Then I guess we will "reap what we sow" which is to say, we will get what we "deserve". If that ends up to be Kerry, I will rest my case and to about protecting my personal environment.
1,023 posted on 05/07/2004 5:32:20 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Bush has an absolute, not a relative, morality. He went into this war intending to fight it like a Christian. Jimmy Carter? Gimme a break, if this were Carter there would be no Iraq war at all. Bush has ample room to express regrets. Like Hebrew National, he answers to a higher authority.
1,024 posted on 05/07/2004 5:39:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mo1
President Bush has apologized gracefully and somberly. Now its the DemonRATS turn to apologize for certain shenanigans which disgraced the moral integrity of the presidency while our misguided prison guards were young and impressionable.
1,025 posted on 05/07/2004 6:17:28 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (This fatwah direct to you from the holy city of Skokie.)
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To: French-American Republican
Not bashing the President. I just think it's a non-story.

Terrorist prisoners were humiliated, big deal. This is war, not a Sunday picnic.
1,026 posted on 05/07/2004 6:27:25 AM PDT by petercooper (We did not have to prove Saddam had WMD, he had to prove he didn't.)
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To: ladyinred; All
People forget why we're there.
Every American should have a screensaver on their computer of the mutilated bodies lining the streets around the WTC so that every morning before they begin their busy life, they could remember and thank God that we have a President who will take the fight to them instead of them bringing the fight home to us .

They don't fight under the terms of the UCMJ or our Constitution.
Their intent is to kill every one of us, and our's must be the same.

Our President's resolve hasn't weakened in the slightest, and those who think it has just don't know this bulldog.
Those who are saying that this apology desecrates the memory of all those who have died are not considering the shame that will occur if Kerry is elected to the highest office.
GW's resolve would be worth no more than a bucket of warm spit.

This is a bump in the road.
Let's cut him some slack and get on with the business of protecting this country.

1,027 posted on 05/07/2004 6:44:09 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Mortimer Snavely
That post is one of the most ignorant I've ever read on FR..........and that's saying something.

You know absolutely NOTHING about Jimmy Carter, and you know LESS than nothing about George W. Bush.

You are clearly one who is offended by the President's faith, and knows nothing about what true faith in Christ means.

It doesn't make one weak. It makes one strong.

It doesn't make one a sniveling coward, and it does NOT negate a steel backbone or courage to do the hard things.

In fact, true faith ENABLES one to do the difficult, unpopular things.

Do a little investigation into the reality of Christianity. Do a little investigation into the personality and resolve of George W. Bush. And do a lot of investigation into the Person of Jesus Christ...... and then pray.

When you come to the understanding that you have spoken in total ignorance (regardless of your political 'know how'), come back and let us know.

Until then, you'd be best not to embarrass yourself with such anti-Christian babble....

1,028 posted on 05/07/2004 6:44:36 AM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Now its the DemonRATS turn to apologize for certain shenanigans which disgraced the moral integrity of the presidency while our misguided prison guards were young and impressionable

They won't ... and the public will notice it also

1,029 posted on 05/07/2004 7:35:27 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
Huey Long fan alert.
1,030 posted on 05/07/2004 8:39:44 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Bush has ample room to express regrets."

Bush should apologize to the troops for apologizing to the Arab world. If he wants to fight this war like a Christian, he would do well to study the life and work of George S. Patton.

1,031 posted on 05/07/2004 8:44:35 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely (Comitas, Firmitas, Gravitas, Humanitas, Industria)
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To: cyncooper; Howlin
Cyncooper, I just love folks like you. No really people who only read a few lines then go ballistic on them and then double post attempted 'slams' make me smile.

Let me show you the chain of events and you can judge for yourself who is spreading disinformation through ignorance.

1. I read Howlin's reply to Sarasota (Post #7):

Rush said a few minutes ago, that if Bush apologizes, it's all over for him
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All over for who? Bush? Is Rush not enough of a man to apologize for something that happened to humiliate a group of people?
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2. I started typing a reply, but got a phone call. I complete what I'm typing and hit post. (post #65)
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Posted by Outlaw76 to Howlin
On News/Activism 05/06/2004 1:36:17 PM CDT #65 of 1,029

If you apologize for something you didn't do, didn't have a hand in doing, and didn't know was happening you take upon yourself direct responsibility for what happened.

In this case he's saying 'It was my fault' by saying 'I'm sorry' unless he states it just right. He would be far better served by saying that he's ashamed and appalled and that those responsible will pay.

Now that he said 'I'm sorry' (if indeed he used those words) the press can freely blame him directly for what happened. Not a good thing.
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3. Howlin Replies (post 136):
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Do you not realize that Bush speaks for this ENTIRE country, even the dolts that did this in Iraq?

It's his JOB to take responsibility for ALL our citizens, whether YOU like it or not.

He would be far better served by saying that he's ashamed and appalled and that those responsible will pay.

You didn't hear the press conference, did you?
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4. My response(Post 192):
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"Do you not realize that Bush speaks for this ENTIRE country, even the dolts that did this in Iraq?"

Yes, of course I do. I guess responsibility wasn't the right term... I should have said that he is accepting that its his fault. It isn't his fault that this happened.

Unfortunately I did not hear the press conference and I started writing my post a long time before I had the chance to hit the 'Post' button.

Oh, lay off the caffeine friend, it makes you type in ALL CAPS.
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Ok, notice that I mention that I didn't hear the press conference in that post,(Cubical bound) and that when I originally replied to Howlin that I use the phrases "Unless he states it just right." and "(if indeed he used those words)" in my reply. These might be some good clues to those who seek fault in others. I admit it, when I replied to Howlin I was ignorant of what the President said. My reply wasn't in any way putting words in the President's mouth nor was I mis-stating anything he said. I was saying that the President MUST be careful of how he states it or he will be seen as being at fault.

Now, in my first post I wrote "If you apologize for something you didn't do, didn't have a hand in doing, and didn't know was happening you take upon yourself direct responsibility for what happened." I should have written that last sentence as ...you take upon yourself direct fault for what happened." Now do you understand? Lets shrink wrap it for you:

If a person says I'm sorry for something they didn't do they accept fault for it. Had the President said he was sorry in the wrong way he would be seen as being at fault for it happening. ok? I think Howlin understood where I was coming from after post 192.

To assume that I meant that he accepted fault for it, well "That is absurd"

1,032 posted on 05/07/2004 9:04:01 AM PDT by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: Outlaw76
I love you, too!

SMOOCH
1,033 posted on 05/07/2004 9:09:32 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Patton did not plenarily inspire the bible and say "Follow Me." Jesus Christ did. Guess who comes first.
1,034 posted on 05/07/2004 10:40:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Mortimer Snavely
An apology simply says "this specific act which happened under my auspices was wrong and we regret it." It WAS wrong, it DID happen under American auspices, and we DO regret it. It states or implies nothing beyond that -- certainly not that the war as a whole is wrong. Being a proud SOB earns you points with Satan and with self-minded men. Not with God.
1,035 posted on 05/07/2004 10:44:31 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the courtesy ping. Wow. LOL - I guess I missed some stuff last night!

(Please excuse me while I go apply some Estee Lauder "Go Bronze".)
1,036 posted on 05/07/2004 10:49:03 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
LOL.....does that stuff work?
1,037 posted on 05/07/2004 10:50:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mortimer Snavely
You're a very confused boy, aren't you?
1,038 posted on 05/07/2004 10:51:45 AM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: Howlin
Yes. Whether it works well enough to make a white guy pass for an hispanic, I can't say - but hey, it's worth a shot.
1,039 posted on 05/07/2004 11:03:10 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: Mo1
That's possible .. but the coordinated attacks from the left is to organized imo

Coordinated attacks are their specialty. Is there really anything new about them?

The only thing new about their canned sanctimony and outrage are the words "Abu Ghraib". The rest is the same old prattle.

1,040 posted on 05/07/2004 1:00:17 PM PDT by Imal (Bush to Arabs: Sorry Our Women Abused Your Men!)
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