[WOSG]

"Damned right. This girl does not look like she is enjoying it. The pic was staged, she didn't tear his close off, ravage him, then put a leash on him. I'd bet the intent was to photograph him, so he can see the pic later in an attempt to break his sense of self worth. Once he betrays himself, he will betray his comrades...and that will save our sons and daughters."

That theory indicates that she would be ordered to pose. And maybe they got the women in the pics to increase the humilation. This is good and bad ... good, that our guards are probably not sadists or creeps, bad that someone thought this act was an approvable or valid treatment. no wonder Karpinski wanted to blame mil intel. officers.

Also indicates that it would be unjust to throw the book at this female private and not the officers in charge. She was a pawn.

[Dead Dog]

I have been arguing that what they were doing isn't torture, and could very well be a necessary evil in extracting information from a hostile.

Well, Kirby Wilber on 570 KVI here in Seattle, just read off a little history of Garner and England.

Garner's former prison had UCMJ action taken against 12 of it's staff for doing EXACTLY the same to American prisoners as they were doing here. Garner's divorced wife had to take out 3 restraining orders against this POS. England is Garner's fiance...and she is now pregnant.

This is not proof, but pretty well leads to the conclusion that this had nothing to do with interrogation and all to do about a sick losers getting their jollies off at the expense of our nation, and probably at least one innocent Iraqi.

We need to waste them hard, and publicly.