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To: tpaine
Are you claiming that non-christan native americans are incapable of honoring our constitutional principles?

No, I'm claiming that there were NO native americans present during that great constutional convention we had in Philadelphia some 200+ years ago. As far as I'm aware, the entire convention was made up of white European theists and diests. I don't believe we asked any native tribes for their input into the make-up of our Constitution...

76 posted on 05/07/2004 12:24:32 PM PDT by Ronzo (GOD alone is enough.)
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To: Ronzo
Our government worked, and continues to work, because a great many of the people (native Americans necessarily excluded...) all had the same basic ideas about sin, morality, family, government, etc.

Are you claiming that non-christan native americans are incapable of honoring our constitutional principles?

No, just that they were definately NOT active pariticipants in our great democratic/republican experiment we call the USA. More like vicitims...(though not all tribes were such..

Wrong again. Many native americans abandoned tribal life and 'participated'. Many still do. They simply leave the reservations and join our general population.
Citizens of the USA do NOT have to have "the same basic ideas about sin, morality, family, government, etc", for the system to 'work'.
We just have to honor & obey the same rule of constitutional law.

-- I'm claiming that there were NO native americans present during that great constutional convention we had in Philadelphia some 200+ years ago.

So what? Why do you think we would invite part of the enemies arrayed against us?

As far as I'm aware, the entire convention was made up of white European theists and diests. I don't believe we asked any native tribes for their input into the make-up of our Constitution...

We should have, as many tribes were not friends of the British either.. And some tribes also had rudimentary democratic forms:

"The The Iroquois League was a confederation of upper New York State Indian tribes formed between 1570 and 1600 who called themselves "the people of the long house." Initially it was composed of the Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, and Seneca. After the Tuscarora joined in 1722, the league became known to the English as the Six Nations and was recognized as such in Albany, New York, in 1722.

They were better organized and more effective, especially in warfare, than other Indian confederacies in the region.

As the longevity of this union would suggest, these Indians were more advanced socially than is often thought. Benjamin Franklin even cited their success in his argument for the unification of the colonies. During the U.S. War of Independence a split developed in the Iroquois league, with the Oneida and Tuscarora favoring the American cause while the others fought for the British...

79 posted on 05/07/2004 1:13:06 PM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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To: Ronzo
Iroquois League Influence on Founding Fathers
Address:http://www.tuscaroras.com/graydeer/influenc/page1.htm Changed:9:19 PM on Wednesday, October 25, 2000
92 posted on 05/07/2004 5:10:20 PM PDT by tpaine (In their arrogance, a few infinitely shrewd imbeciles attempt to lay down the 'law' for all of us.)
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