Rush: Outrage Over Iraqi Prisoner Torture Comparable to Outrage Over Tailhook Scandal

Rush Limbaugh Show ^ | 5/4/2004 | myself

[k2blader]

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what was done, although I could see that it might be a useful technique. The key here is that I don't know, and neither does 95% of the FreeRepublic, and 100% of the media. But I am not going to second guess those who we've charged with the task of interrogation.

I think I hear what you're saying. We can only take in what is "fed out". Regardless, I have seen the actual report on the abuses and it does seem a small number of soldiers broke the law.

Please also see #120, especially the last little paragraph.

[mudblood]

My position is this is that in war the "moral high ground" gets our men and women killed. I'm suggesting that we don't need the moral high ground anymore - its a liberal thing, a wealthy nation thing, an armchair general thing. Liberals fight wars with a gun in one hand and a law book in the other. I'm suggesting that we take the war to where it wants to go anyway: the pacification of the middle east. To do this we need to censor our media during times of war on a specific number of war-related stories, and begin education reform in our public schools, with a class on patriotism taught by a military (or equally qualified) representative. Here they'd unlearn everything MTV has taught them and discover for themselves the high price of our freedom and prosperity.
I believed in your strategy on 9/10 and changed it completely on 9/11. Its still kind of hard to get my mind around it now because it seems quite extreme. But when I close my eyes, I see visions of mushroom clouds rising over DC, not 20 miles away from me as I write this.

[Dead Dog]

The real damage will be done by our media. They are already running around drawing moral equivilence to Saddam's rape rooms.

[Almondjoy]

We are definitely on the same page.

[k2blader]

My position is this is that in war the "moral high ground" gets our men and women killed.

I think on the battlefield that is absolutely correct.

If you have time, please see this thread:

From the Frontlines: A Combat Soldier's View of the Iraq Prison Abuse Case

and post #60 from this thread:

Phony Iraqi Abuse Outrage Syndrome

They put what I'm thinking and trying to say into words fit for posting.

[mudblood]

I have read both posts and responded to them in my usual way. I totally respect you and your position in this, and because of the nature of my position I thoroughly understand if you DON'T appreciate mine - it isn't a conventional position, I agree. I wish wars would never happen, and if they did happen they'd be fought with the same honor and dignity that was exhibited in WWI, or during the "Master and Commander" days, when rules were agreed to and enforced, prisoners were treated as decently as possible, etc. Very sad that it isn't this way anymore. Being nice to our enemies is a two way proposition - it has to be enforced on BOTH SIDES. As long as the enemy keeps to its barbaric ways, it would be folly not to do the same to them. Make fighting this war so agonizing to the enemy that they will no longer fight it. HURT THEM. Boil them alive in pig fat if you have to, just get them to stop trying to kill Americans. Make their lives a living hell. Unfortunately, Bush won't do it. Hell, even Rush wouldn't do it. I'd do it, but nobody'd let me :)