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So Tillman's atheism makes it less of a sacrifice? What's the point of the article??
1 posted on 05/04/2004 10:27:13 AM PDT by Soundman4x4
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To: Soundman4x4
Did his brother really say that?
2 posted on 05/04/2004 10:28:37 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Soundman4x4
Ironically, Pat died so that his brother could speak like an idiot.
3 posted on 05/04/2004 10:31:17 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Chat is my milieu)
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If that's what he believes, that's his right to say so.

Nothing wrong.
4 posted on 05/04/2004 10:31:29 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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Ya got me. Weird article. And I'm guessing that glass of guiness that was poured at the end wasn't his brother's first that day.
5 posted on 05/04/2004 10:31:55 AM PDT by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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This is from the SF Chronicle.
Its credibility is suspect from the get go.
6 posted on 05/04/2004 10:31:58 AM PDT by abc1
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In the case of Tillman's youngest brother it appears that Andy Warhol was wrong. It's 15 seconds. Not minutes.
11 posted on 05/04/2004 10:32:36 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (I'm isthisnickcool, and I approved this post!)
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And San Francisco is F'n useless. So why does anyone give this rag the time of day.

They ought to call it "The Whining Chronicle"

Tell them to go write stories about how their city has become the Sodom and Gomorrah of our day.

I can appreciate this youngster's emotion due to what has turned into a press circus not allowing his family to be in peace with all of this. But perhaps he should trust his own older brother's judgement. His little tirade doesn't exactly exude confidence in his own brother's judgement now, does it!

12 posted on 05/04/2004 10:32:37 AM PDT by Dick Grayson
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To: Soundman4x4
Pat Tillman is not an atheist anymore, and his brother needs to learn some manners.
18 posted on 05/04/2004 10:34:11 AM PDT by Grig
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only a San Francisco paper could somewho connect Pat Tillman dying in war to the tolerance of homosexuals. What a bizare little world thay must be.
19 posted on 05/04/2004 10:34:32 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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"So Tillman's atheism makes it less of a sacrifice? What's the point of the article??"

Which Tillman's atheism? What evidence is there that Pat Tillman was an atheist? His brother sounds like one, but not being overtly religious does not make one an atheist.

23 posted on 05/04/2004 10:35:34 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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Leave it to the SFC to assume that because someone isn't religious, they don't believe in God. Sorry to say, sounds like Pat's brother also made this conclusion. Only Pat truly knows what he believed.
25 posted on 05/04/2004 10:35:59 AM PDT by rintense (Now I know why liberals hate guns... they keep shooting themselves in the foot!)
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"He [Pat Tillman] talked about gays,'' Lyle Setencich, the former ASU assistant said. "He asked me, 'Could you coach gays?' "

Not exactly surprising that hit-piece on Tillman came from the SF Chronicle, nor is it surprising that the author attempts to portray him as "homophobic."

26 posted on 05/04/2004 10:37:06 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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All we are is shooting stars

-Bad Co

27 posted on 05/04/2004 10:37:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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What's the point of the article??

Clearly the point of the article was that Tillman was the kind of war hero that San Francisco can relate to -- a homosexual atheist. The real point was not the brother's "eulogy," but the hints about his orientation that are sprinkled throughout the article without coming out and saying it in so many words.

31 posted on 05/04/2004 10:37:33 AM PDT by Maximilian
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What's the point? That Tillman's supposed atheism detracts from his sacifice? I pity Pat Tillman if he met death without knowing the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, but that would have been his choice as a human being.
33 posted on 05/04/2004 10:39:04 AM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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As far as I can tell, the point of the article, at least the first part of it, is Pat Tillmans brother is a flaming @$$hole.
34 posted on 05/04/2004 10:39:11 AM PDT by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy, kid)
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He's obviously upset, we should move on.
35 posted on 05/04/2004 10:39:19 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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History has proven that there are no atheists on the field of battle. The punk arse brother is wrong!
36 posted on 05/04/2004 10:39:41 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( Maybe JF Kerry was once a hero, but he's been a zero, since Hanoi Jane Fonda feminized his libido.)
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What's the point of the article?

To soften us up for the eventual appropriation of Tillman's image by the leftwing fringe loonies.

37 posted on 05/04/2004 10:39:54 AM PDT by skeeter
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What's the point of the article??

The article seems to imply that Pat Tillman was a gay atheist. As such, it is now OK for people in San Francisco to revere him and honor his sacrifice.

The author keeps repeating "challenge yourself", but by that she means that normal people should challenge themselves. When the Pat Tillman story first broke, it was challenging to the left-coast leftists. So they ignored it. A good liberal should Question Authority. But nobody should ever Question Liberal Authority.

40 posted on 05/04/2004 10:40:18 AM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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