Today Show Continues its Offensive on Iraq Prison Abuse as Hagel Plays the Eager Accomplice

The Today Show

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Today Show ping.

[ez]

He did deny that his client had violated the Geneva Convention. While the convention prohibits the dissemination of photos of POWs, the lawyer pointed out that it was first CBS and now NBC who had disseminated the photos, not his client.

So has NBCBS violated the Geneva Convention in an effort to tar Bush?

[tkathy]

I am curious about the obvious homosexual implications of this awful event.

Are straights or are there homosexuals behind this? I hope the truth is not swept under the carpet.

[demkicker]

I'd rather watch Good Morning America. They're devoting the entire show to Brad Pitt.

[an amused spectator]

So, has the United Nations 'oil for food' scandal been in evidence in between the Perkster's daily diatribes against the soldiers?

[vaudine]

Golly, I'm surprised!---that people are still watching the Today Show, I mean.
Katie Arsenic turned me off the first and about the only time I looked in several years ago, and from threads like this, she only gets worse.

vaudine

[MEG33]

Thank you for being a soldier.I believe Hagel loves the spotlight as much as McCain..and he sabatoges the President constantly.How else would he get so much face time?
The prison scandal will be on every show for as long as nothing else worse happens.Wonder if Hagel will start the investigations in the fall?Maximum damage...

[MoodyBlu]

As a caller to C-SPAN noted this morning, the dominant media is more upset about the prisoner "abuse" then they were about Waco and the frying of the people there.

The media is so worried that the Arab world is going to see how bad the west is because of the prisoners, forgetting that they have seen all of our ugly warts for years.

MoodyBlu

[sauropod]

"But his defense was equally clear: his client and the others were not freelancing. They did not engage in this behavior out of sadism or as a result of misconduct. Rather, they were follow direct orders, emanating from the intelligence personnel. They were informed that being subjected to public nudity and simulated acts of sodomy were extremely degrading to Arabs, and that this was part of the effort to soften up the prisoners."

If this is true, then the intelligence personnel should be court martialed (or civilian equivalent) as well. That is just wrong.

[Diogenesis]

[VisualizeSmallerGovernment]

Did anyone ask Hagel how drafting people into the military would have improved their competence as prison guards?

Like if you chose people randomly off the street and forced them to serve, they wouldn't do this sort of stuff?

[governsleastgovernsbest]

has the United Nations 'oil for food' scandal been in evidence in between the Perkster's daily diatribes against the soldiers?

Excellent rhetorical question!

[governsleastgovernsbest]

the dominant media is more upset about the prisoner "abuse" then they were about Waco and the frying of the people there.

You just don't get it. Waco was just a bunch of right-wing religious fanatics. And Janet "Big Foot" Reno of the Clinton administration was in charge. So killing the the Waco crowd was no big deal.

But in Iraq we are talking about a persecuted ethnic minority. And there's a chance to hold the Bush admin responsible. And it's an election year. Totally different moral imperative!

[governsleastgovernsbest]

If this is true, then the intelligence personnel should be court martialed (or civilian equivalent) as well. That is just wrong.

I imagine that most FReepers agree. But it is the imbalance in the coverage that is suspect.

[Diogenesis]

In WACO, the murders of Americans were OK'd by CLinton and Gorelick --- so they were OK.
Taking out murderer Saddam was NOT ok'd by Clinton or Gorelick.

That's all there is.

---

"America has the watches. We have the time;
... and Gorelick and her docile clowns on their 911 Committee."
Ayman Al-Zawahiri

[jwalsh07]

Any word on when Karbala Katie and the guys are gonna show pictures of the mass graves, the bodies of the babies in Habalja or Amercians jumping out of windows at the WTC?

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Any word on when Karbala Katie and the guys are gonna show pictures of the mass graves, the bodies of the babies in Habalja or Amercians jumping out of windows at the WTC?

That would be highly offensive scapegoating of a persecuted ethnic minority, and might well constitute illegal racial profiling.

[Bluntpoint]

Why is it when Hagel is asked a question about Bush he gives a pointed answer with both barrels but when asked about a Democrat colleague in the Senate or House he demurs and says that it would not be proper to respond about his friends in the congress?

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Golly, I'm surprised!---that people are still watching the Today Show.

Unfortunately, millions still watch Today and presumably have their opinions shaped to some extent as a result. That being true, I believe it's worthwhile to keep an eye on what Today is up to.