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CNN - The Catholic campaign of 2004
CNN ^ | Monday, May 3, 2004 Posted: 5:56 PM EDT (2156 GMT) | Mark Shields

Posted on 05/03/2004 6:37:56 PM PDT by narses

WASHINGTON (Creators Syndicate) -- On the eve of the 1984 presidential campaign -- during which the support of legalized abortion by Catholic politicians would stir a major controversy -- Cardinal Joseph Bernadine of Chicago, an opponent of abortion, cautioned Catholics against turning abortion into a single voting issue: "Our moral, political and economic responsibilities do not stop at the moment of birth. "Those who defend the right to life of the weakest among us must be equally visible in support of the quality of life of the powerless among us: the old and the young, the hungry and the homeless, the undocumented immigrant and the unemployed worker. ... Consistency means we can't have it both ways." Now into the 2004 campaign with a pro-choice Democrat about to become the first Catholic presidential nominee in 44 years comes Nigerian Cardinal Francis Arinze, a major Vatican official. Refusing to mention John Kerry by name, Cardinal Arinze answered a reporter's question as to whether a priest should refuse to give communion to politicians who support legalized abortion: "Yes, if the person should not receive it, then it should not be given." Further pressed, Arinze tossed this political grenade into the collective laps of the American hierarchy: "The Catholic Church exists in the United States. There are bishops there. Let them interpret." Immediately, all sides have rolled out the old rhetorical artillery. Literate testimonials have been issued on the primacy of the individual conscience and the genius of the American separation of church and state. Should not church men and women just stay the hell out of politics? True, generations of politicians ducked and hid confronting the national evils of first slavery and later legally sanctioned racial discrimination until they were forced to act, largely by the heroic witness of Protestant ministers, Jewish rabbis, Catholic priests and Catholic nuns. Apparently ignoring the indispensable role of the organized religious community and opposing the U.S. war in Vietnam, one nationally syndicated liberal columnist recently wrote: "We do little but emulate our enemy, the Taliban, by allowing religious conviction to determine public policy." American Catholic bishops have individually intervened in opposition to pro-choice candidates before. In 1996, the Catholic archbishop of New Orleans declared that "if a person actually believes in Catholic doctrine, then I don't see how they can vote for (pro-choice U.S. Senator and Louisiana Democrat Mary) Landrieu without a feeling of sin." Before that, the bishop of San Diego had publicly denied communion to pro-choice Democrat and state Senate candidate Lucy Killea. Perhaps boosted by voter anger at church leaders publicly opposing pro-choice women, both Landrieu and Killea won tough races. Some Catholic leaders now see in any official church opposition to John Kerry the potential for a major swing to the Democrat among Catholic and non-Catholic voters furious at any implicit endorsement of George W. Bush, who as Texas governor led the world in legally executing men and women. Newspaper support for or opposition to church people in politics depends almost entirely upon whether that particular newspaper opposes or supports the particular cause which the church people are championing. Let's look at the record of The New York Times. About the intervention of the San Diego bishop in opposing the pro-choice candidate, that great paper wrote: "By imposing a test of religious loyalty, Bishop Maher threatens the truce of tolerance by which Americans maintain civility and in large religious liberty." Contrast that with the Times' praise of the Catholic Prelate in an earlier church state showdown: "Men of all faiths must admire the unwavering courage (of) the most Reverend Joseph Francis Rummel, Archbishop of New Orleans," and went on to conclude, "We salute the Catholic Archbishop. He has set an example founded on religious principles and responsive to the social conscience of our time." To deserve those bouquets, Cardinal Rummel had excommunicated Louisiana's powerhouse Democratic political boss, a white supremacist who had publicly opposed the Church's authority in desegregating the diocesan schools. In 2004, voters in competing camps would do well to reflect on the wise counsel of Cardinal Bernadine, who reminded those who emphasize political opposition to abortion to the exclusion of all other social justice issues that to believe that life begins at conception does not mean that it -- or our serious responsibilities -- politically end at birth. And that the separation of church and state does not mean the divorce of religion from politics.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; catholicspoliticians; markshields

1 posted on 05/03/2004 6:37:56 PM PDT by narses
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To: GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
Gag, ping. Yuck.
2 posted on 05/03/2004 6:38:23 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses
Let's look at the record of The New York Times. About the intervention of the San Diego bishop in opposing the pro-choice candidate, that great paper wrote: "By imposing a test of religious loyalty, Bishop Maher threatens the truce of tolerance by which Americans maintain civility and in large religious liberty."

The pro-choice politicians aren't forced to continue identifying themselves as Catholic. If they don't like it, they should find another church that condones the slaughter of the unborn.

3 posted on 05/03/2004 6:41:24 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: narses
In my opinion, Cardinal Joseph Bernadine of Chicago was the single most destructive figure in the Catholic Church in America. Other figures were more obviously corrupt or heretical, such as Rembert Weakland, Joseph Curren, or Richard P. McBrien. But Bernardine was the subtlest, the smartest, and the most destructive.

Not only the Catholic Church but all of America suffered from his influence. Without him, Roe v. Wade might not have stood. Without him, the liberals could not have been so successful at defining deviancy down. Because he is the one above all others who disarmed the National Catholic Bishops Conference and took the moral influence of the bishops out of play in our national politics.

No wonder CNN is appealing to his memory now in support of John Kerry, with the same tired old Seamless Garment argument.
4 posted on 05/03/2004 6:46:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: narses
On the eve of the 1984 presidential campaign.....Cardinal Joseph Bernadine of Chicago, ...cautioned Catholics against turning abortion into a single voting issue: "Our moral, political and economic responsibilities do not stop at the moment of birth. "Those who defend the right to life of the weakest among us must be equally visible in support of the quality of life of the powerless among us: the old and the young, the hungry and the homeless, the undocumented immigrant and the unemployed worker. ... Consistency means we can't have it both ways."

But the good Cardinal was having it both ways. Basically what he was saying was that Catholics could look the other way about a politician's pro-abortion voting record as long as they supported a liberal social agenda.

Following this advice the Church now not only has abortion but gay marriage threatening their teaching. They went down that slippery slope.

5 posted on 05/03/2004 6:47:56 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Cicero
You may be right, so many heretics, so little time.
6 posted on 05/03/2004 6:49:00 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: narses
Yeah. Right, Mr. Shields. All those "anti-abortion" politicians are out there murdering the elderly and throwing the poor into incinerators.

When they ARE doing those things, come back and tell me it's wrong to be a "single-issue" pro-life voter.

7 posted on 05/03/2004 6:59:09 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: narses
Gee Whiz, I'd almost forgot that Cardinal Joseph Bernadine was willing to have babies killed as long as the killers voted for higher Social Security benefits and unemployment extensions.

After the Reformation, Counter Reformation, and the dissociation of the Catholic hierarchy from hereditary monarchies, just where in the world did the Church continue to find people like Bernadine?

8 posted on 05/03/2004 7:01:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: narses
Ah....that eminent theologian Mark Shields. Another liberal Dem hack who helps send babykillers to Washington every election year. May the fairies and banshees sweep him away and stuff him deep in their mounds.
9 posted on 05/03/2004 7:11:41 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: narses
The Catholic Church calling on so-called Catholics to actually abide by the faith they claim is hardly a challenge to the notion of separation of church and state.

The Catholic Church can't (well really *won't*) force Kerry and Co to abide by their faith, and even if they could no one can deny Kerry and Co office just because they have left the Catholic Church.

The point seems to remain though - if you aren't a Catholic, and Kerry most certainly is not - why bother lying and claiming you are?

Is there anything John "Irisheyes" Kerry won't lie about...anything???
10 posted on 05/03/2004 7:13:32 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: muawiyah
"After the Reformation, Counter Reformation, and the dissociation of the Catholic hierarchy from hereditary monarchies, just where in the world did the Church continue to find people like Bernadine?"

From the A-list for bad prelates to honor and promote kept by JPII.
11 posted on 05/03/2004 7:49:52 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: muawiyah; ultima ratio
"...just where in the world did the Church continue to find people like Bernadine?"

Gay bars, probably.

12 posted on 05/03/2004 8:09:50 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Cicero
In my opinion, Cardinal Joseph Bernadine of Chicago...


Wasn't it BERNARDIN, not Bernadine? The same one who was falsely accused by a homosexual AIDS perp who later recanted, and was forgiven? And did he not become known for his doctrine of the "seamless garment of life, from conception to the grave?"

Or is this a different Chicago bishop?
13 posted on 05/03/2004 8:37:13 PM PDT by SavoyyTruffle
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Have another Chivas, Mark.
14 posted on 05/03/2004 8:46:00 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: narses
Read later
15 posted on 05/04/2004 12:24:17 AM PDT by AnimalLover
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To: SavoyyTruffle
The same one who was falsely accused by a homosexual AIDS perp who later recanted, and was forgiven?

As I understand it, the guy who accused him did not exactly recant. After meeting with Bernardin, he said he couldn't be sure his memories were accurate.

16 posted on 05/04/2004 4:14:37 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
"...he said he couldn't be sure his memories were accurate."

In the days of the "recovered memories" hysteria, that amounted to the same thing as recanting. It's called "saving face." The "memories" were almost certainly false.
17 posted on 05/08/2004 12:33:21 PM PDT by SavoyyTruffle
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To: narses
Just received a bumper sticker from American Life League,
"You can't be BOTH Catholic & Pro-Abortion"
18 posted on 05/08/2004 12:51:27 PM PDT by G Larry (Support John Thune!)
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To: narses
And in Breaking news: Cardinal Bernardin is still dead.
19 posted on 05/08/2004 12:57:36 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (in a world gone mad, this all makes sense)
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