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To: MissAmericanPie
First, Peter's wife remained with him and is mentioned several times.

Please provide passages from Scripture which support your mistaken claim. Here's a clue: Peter's mother in law is mentioned in Scripture, his wife is not. Additionally,, you might want to enlighten yourself by reading St.Clement of Alexandria's(~150-220 Anno Domini) The Stromata, book VII Chapter XI, which reads in part:

'They say, accordingly, that the blessed Peter, on seeing his wife led to death, rejoiced on account of her call and conveyance home, and called very encouragingly and comfortingly, addressing her by name, "Remember thou the Lord." Such was the marriage of the blessed and their perfect disposition towards those dearest to them.

Thus also the apostle says, "that he who marries should be as though he married not," and deem his marriage free of inordinate affection, and inseparable from love to the Lord; to which the true husband exhorted his wife to cling on her departure out of this life to the Lord.'

But it is beyond rediculous and against God's will, for a church, in failing to allow married priests, to replace that shortage with homosexuals who bogger little boys, all in order to have enough priests to cover the shortage created by their own, not God's, demand that all priests be single.

Once again you are incorrect. There are 22 Churches sui juris within the Catholic Church: 21 in Eastern Rites which ordain married men and one, the Latin Rite, aka Western Church, in which the norm is to ordain single men who willingly and freely accept the discipline of celibacy. Men who desire both marriage and the priesthood have 21 other choices they can make. Again, God Himself praises celibacy and as Scripture teaches us, if you make it to heaven, you too will be celibate as well: "And Jesus answering, said to them: You err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they shall neither marry nor be married, but shall be as the angels of God in heaven." Matthew 22:29-30

Scripture also teaches us to emulate God: "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect." Matthew 5:48

Are you aware that the Vatican banned, in writing no less, the ordination of homosexuals and pederasts in February, 1961?(That is a rhetorical question. Based on your demonstrated ignorance of Scripture and the topic at hand, we both know the answer is a deafening no):

"Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers."

So what has been demonstrated in the vast majority of these heinous crimes is a lack of holiness and disobedience on the part of both the criminals who perpetrated these acts and the bishops who thumbed their noses at the Pope in ordaining those that they should not have. You also have put forth a specious argument implying that the discipline of celibacy was the catalyst for these acts. However, your argument doesn't hold water, once again, since the discipline of celibacy played no part in the sex crimes perpetrated by these Protestant ministers, did it?(rhetorical again)

91 posted on 05/02/2004 11:24:53 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I don't know where you are pulling some of these scriptures from, it's not the King James. Bottom line. The Church has been so stubborn in it's demand for celibacy that it embraced abomination to make up for a lack of priests.

And you can tap dance all over the place about it, but thems the facts. Here's one for you,

And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
Mt 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

That also goes for those that enable and turn knowing eyes away from abominators that commit these offenses against children. No excuse will be acceptable for the offense of exposing children to losing their faith in order to hang onto some rite of celibacy.

Homosexuals have no place in the priesthood, period. No matter if they abuse children or not. Christ called the homosexual temple prostitutes, taunting him on the cross, "dogs" in Psalms 22. Yet worse than these are allowed in the priesthood? To flaunt their abomination at the altar? Sure, you can point to abuses in all denominations, but the Catholic Church has embraced it as a matter of course.
107 posted on 05/03/2004 5:42:57 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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