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Cincinnati Enquirer ^ | May 02, 2004 | Dan Horn and Denise Smith Amos

Posted on 05/02/2004 5:31:38 PM PDT by Investment Biker

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Women priests are problematic (I don't think there's theological justification for them), but there's clearly no problem with married men being ordained priests.

Agreed on women priests. Most women I've seen who are agitating for it, I wouldn't WANT as priests in my Parish!

As for married men, my only concern is for their wives and families. As a deacon, you KNOW how stressful it can be for a family. Imagine a man with a family being in charge of a Parish; his wife would be the continual sounding board for parishoners who are annoyed with her husband. It would take a STRONG woman to handle that without it causing stress in their relationship.

61 posted on 05/03/2004 12:02:54 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Getting the 'Knack' of Priesthood

 

 

 

by Philip Pullella

Seminarians at Rome's Pontifical North American College seek a prayerful attitude and pastoral outlook as they prepare for future service to the Church

In this article:

Humble Beginnings

Vocations Stories

Made Stronger By Scandal

 

Msgr. Kevin McCoy, rector, welcomes Supreme Knight Anderson on a recent visit to the NAC.

It has been called the "West Point of Seminaries." Tell that to the students of the Pontifical North American College in Rome, though, and they'll say that perhaps the only thing resembling a military regimen is the pre-dawn wake-up call.

"In terms of discipline and daily life we probably have one of the earliest prayers and Masses in Rome, at 6:15," jokes Michael A. DeAscanis, a 33-year-old deacon studying for the Archdiocese of Baltimore and a member of St. Bartholomew Council 9127 in Manchester, Md.

And yet more than one comparison can be made. Both sit atop lofty positions. The NAC (affectionately pronounced "the knack" by those who know it), rests on one of the Eternal City's hills, the Janiculum. It has a commanding position over the Tiber River just as West Point dominates New York’s Hudson River Valley. And, as much as the staff and students try to downplay the association with the elite military academy, both institutions say they are forging a few good men.

Seminarians do not ask to study at the NAC. They are chosen by their bishops to undergo spiritual and pastoral formation there while they study at the city's historic pontifical universities such as the Gregorian, the Angelicum and the Alphonsianum.

The aim is to develop a lifelong understanding of the workings of the Holy See, to be ambassadors of the Catholic Church in the United States and to develop a particular bond with the papacy.

"Their bishops saw them as good men with a lot of promise, men who are stable in what they want to do and who they are, and sent them here because they are going to be educated in a real global sense," says the rector, Msgr. Kevin McCoy, 49, a NAC alum, native of Jefferson, Iowa, and member of Epiphany Council 743 in Sioux City.

"For most of these men, coming here for four or five years is truly life-changing. They come away with a new sense of who they are and what they are called to do."

 

Humble Beginnings

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Pope Pius IX founded the North American College in 1859 when the United States was 83 years old.

"Pius IX wanted to have young men from the United States train for the priesthood here in Rome so they would not be foreign to it, so they would know what the Holy See is all about," says Msgr. McCoy.

Although 145 years separate them, the aim of the students, then and now, is the same: to learn about the global Church and at the same time be a link between Rome and the United States. (Editor's Note: There also are pontifical colleges in Rome for seminarians from Mexico and Canada, among others. The NAC, Mexican and Canadian pontifical colleges each receive annual grant funding from the Knights of Columbus.)

"I think one of the greatest experiences of being here is the contact with the universal Church," says Avelino Gonzalez, of Maryland. "You see the whole Church and people from different parts of the world. In class you can meet people from the Congo, the Philippines and Scandinavia. … No longer is the focus just on U.S. issues or your own diocese. You're really exposed to this global entity and beauty that that entails. It is mind-boggling to see the vastness of the Catholic Church and to see that in all that diversity there’s this profound unity."

The men say their experience at the NAC gives them a perspective that they can bring back to their diocese and share with their brother priests in the United States, a perspective that is complementary rather than contradictory.

Gonzalez studies at the Jesuit-run Pontifical Gregorian University, known in the English-speaking community as "The Greg." In fact, Americans have shorthand names for many of Rome's universities. The Angelicum, for example, is "The Ange."

The Rome universities provide academic formation in theology, philosophy, sociology and anthropology. "But we teach them a lot about pastoral life and the practical reality of the priesthood," says Msgr. McCoy, whose straight talk is a credit to his surname. "We get down to the nitty-gritty. The universities play a fundamental role, but we teach them where the rubber meets the road. We can't do it all. We can’t tell them what to expect every time the doorbell rings after they become priests, but we try."

About 75 of the Latin Rite dioceses in the United States are currently represented among the students of the NAC. Of the 14 staff members, five are spiritual directors and five are formation advisers.

 

Vocations Stories

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As in any seminary, every vocation tells a story. At 39, Gonzalez, a Cuban-born American from the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C., is a late vocation. He had a good career and a good job, and his friends wondered why he would want to leave it all.

"I think the questions are a reflection of the culture itself in a country that is so rich materially, where people are calling their investment brokers every day to check their portfolio. In a culture that is so bottom-line driven it’s easy to figure out why they are asking 'Why aren’t you doing the same thing as all of us? Why aren’t you worried about the nice retirement and the summer house? What, are you nuts?' There is no other explanation except that something supernatural happens when you have a vocation," he says.

"The other thing that people can’t understand is celibacy," he adds. "The culture is so sexually and sensually saturated that the idea of a man giving his life to God, including his sexuality, is so radical that people question it. … They can’t understand that. It's so radical, it's the radical part of the Gospel."

Christopher M. Mahar, 33, a deacon from Providence, R.I., and member of Msgr. Peter Blessing Council 5273 in Coventry, also had his share of funny looks when he told friends he wanted to be a priest. "They wanted to know why I would want to waste my life by acting in the person of Christ, seeing Jesus Christ in the Eucharist, serving God and forgiving people's sins. That is such an odd question from someone who is Catholic. I told them, 'If you consider that a waste of a life you have no faith at all. You are only focused on this life and have no sense of the supernatural.'"

James Lease, 28, of Harrisburg, Pa., was a Methodist until he attended the Mass Pope John Paul II celebrated in New York's Central Park during his 1995 pastoral visit to the United States.

"I said to myself: ‘Here is someone who is preaching the Gospel. He has been an icon for all of us, a witness to hope. I think he is the greatest advertisement the Catholic Church has and we really haven’t used him to his potential in the United States. We apologize for him instead of showing him to our other brothers and sisters. In fact, sometimes our Protestant brothers and sisters respond more favorably to him than Catholics at home,” Lease says.

The other men at the NAC also say John Paul has been a beacon for them and for their vocations. For most, he is the only pope they have ever known. Luke Tomson, 22, of Spokane, Wash., was born three years after John Paul was elected.

The pope's presence is felt every day at the NAC, which has one of Rome's nicest and closest views of the dome of St. Peter's Basilica.

"I had not realized how much the pope was part of my consciousness. By being here, you feel like you are neighbors," says Karl Bissinger, 33, of Fall River, Mass.

"This guy has experienced so much. But when I read Gift and Mystery [a papal letter on his priesthood], I could see his joy in being a priest," says Mahar. "He rejoiced in the priesthood, not in the papacy. And I said 'Oh my goodness, this is what I feel called to, this is what I’m applying to the seminary for. This is the pope and he's excited by the very same thing."

The Knights of Columbus gave seminarians at the NAC and in the United States and Canada a special edition of Gift and Mystery in honor of the 25th anniversary of Pope John Paul II's election (see related story page 18).

 

Made Stronger By Scandal

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Keeping vocations on track costs money and the NAC has many supporters among the American community in Rome and benefactors on both sides of the Atlantic who help meet the $7 million yearly budget. Traditionally, the serving American ambassador to the Vatican is one of its greatest cheerleaders.

"We have to thank those who had the vision to put a seminary over here," says the current envoy, Jim Nicholson, a member of Denver Council 539. "I think it fits the future leaders of the Church in America to study at the great universities here, to be familiar and comfortable with the hierarchy of the central Church and for the hierarchy to get to know these burgeoning leaders from the United States."

In the past three years since the sex abuse scandal exploded in the United States, the seminarians, whether they will return to be diocesan officials or parish priests, have had to deal with it.

Msgr. McCoy recalls: "I told the first class that returned to the States after the scandal broke: 'I don't know what you are going to find at home but go there, you know who you are, be what you need to be. Be priests for these people. Do what we've trained you to do.'

"Now, in 2004, the newest classes are not so concerned because they have been home since then, they've done parish work, they know the people and they know the people love the priest."

In fact, the students say the scandal galvanized them.

"A lot of people say it must be very hard to be called to be a priest at this time," says Mahar. "My response is simple. This is the exact time that God has called me to be a priest and for good reason. This is his good will, his timing. This is something I need to trust, so I would not want to be a priest at any other time."

But they also realize their work has been cut out for them.

"Those of us who are being ordained after this bad news don't take anything for granted," says DeAscanis. "We can't take the faithful for granted. They are going to be questioning us and so we have to prove ourselves and we have to prove the Church to them and prove the goodness of God, the forgiveness of God, the power of grace. That can be a benefit to us newly ordained priests because it's an added incentive and motivation. We know that there's a lot of faith and trust that needs to be regained. And so, as is always the case, through anything bad and anything evil, something good can come from it if we’re able to recognize what that is."

In fact, the students say that despite the difficulties they may find back home and throughout their lives, they pray to remain faithful to the motto on the college’s coat of arms: Firmum est cor meum — My heart is steadfast.

Philip Pullella, a Reuters correspondent in Rome, was associate editor and lead writer of the book, Pope John Paul — Reaching Out Across Borders (2003: Prentice Hall).

 

 

Vocation: A Call to Conversion

 

 

by Bishop Blase J. Cupich

Let's help young people begin to see life differently

In this article:

A Calling Or A Career?

The Story of Our Lives

A Personal Fiat

 

Over the years, many people have asked me: "Why did you become a priest?" Without hesitation, I have always replied, "I was first attracted to the priesthood by the lives of priests."

I liked the qualities I saw in the priests assigned to my parish and who taught in the schools. They ministered to people with genuine concern as they celebrated the sacraments, led parish communities and worked together in fraternity. They contributed to the lives of so many in ways that inspired others to be likewise as generous.

I now see that this initial attraction to the priesthood was just a first phase that needed to mature if I was going to respond with a lifelong commitment to becoming a priest. It is not unlike what takes place in dating when two people are fascinated with each other. The initial attraction will not sustain a lasting relationship. The couple has to move beyond this phase and find deeper reasons for continuing the relationship.

Father John F. Canary, rector of the University of St. Mary of the Lake-Mundelein Seminary outside of Chicago, put it well when he described how a vocation to the priesthood must also be more than a fascination. Like other relationships that last, it must become a "love worthy of my entire life."

These thoughts come to mind as I look at the issue of promoting vocations in the Church. Yes, recruitment through positive experiences such as mine is important. Young people must come to know that priests and religious lead fulfilling lives and they should enjoy being with them. I see this every time I visit a school or attend events like World Youth Day or the National Catholic Youth Convention. Young people are grateful and encouraged when their priests and religious are actively involved in their school and youth activities. Indeed, priests and religious have an important role to play in encouraging young people to consider following in their footsteps.

Yet my experiences as a pastor, a seminary rector and a bishop have convinced me that we are always more successful, and truer to the Gospel, when we remember that promoting vocations is more a matter of conversion than recruitment. For that reason, we are all responsible for, and have a part in, calling young people to serve the Church.

I use the word "conversion" intentionally. Young people today are heavily influenced by a market-based approach to life that tends to measure their future solely in terms of material gain and financial success. We need to challenge that way of thinking and lead young people to a different way of looking at the future.

What does that mean and how do we do it?

 

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Growing up I was blessed with faith-filled parents, religious women who taught in my school, and others who regularly spoke of life as a gift from God. Of all the blessings we can give to our young people, we need to show them how to appreciate the mystery of their lives and lead them to realize that their lives are important to the plan of God. This involves conversion, because the world has a narrow focus when it comes to God.

While it is true that God is important in popular culture, he is only of relative importance. If God is an important factor in a person's life, he is often just one factor among many competing factors. The conversion I am talking about involves a change from thinking that God is a factor in our lives to knowing that we are a factor in God's life. When we teach our young people to think about their lives as important to God, a whole new range of opportunities opens up to them. They begin to develop a sensitivity to God’s call as they look at their future in terms of participating in his life and plan. This is always the first step toward a religious vocation.

Yet, even more is at stake. Without a clear message that God takes the initiative, we leave our young people with the harmful impression that they have to come up with a plan that justifies their existence and makes them the authors of their own destiny. This unrealistic and unfair expectation places a great burden on young people. They already feel pressure to succeed in all areas of their lives, from school to sports to relationships. Could this undue pressure be the reason so many young people today are so indecisive and aimless in their approach to the future? Have they convinced themselves that they will never measure up to what other people have accomplished or to what others expect of them?

The only way to free our young people from the grip of such a harmful approach to life is to foster in them a belief that God brought them into this world for a unique purpose that contributes to his plan. The aim is to help all of our young people embrace the future with purpose and confidence. I believe that our recruitment efforts for religious vocations will meet with greater success when our young people grow in sensitivity to God's enduring involvement in their lives.

 

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What are some practical ways we can do this? For young people, the best teaching method is often example. There are countless stories in Scripture and the tradition of saints that recount how people have responded to God's call in ways that made unique and often heroic contributions to salvation history. Knights of Columbus surely have a wonderful example in our founder, the Servant of God Father Michael J. McGivney.

Even more importantly, parents should not be afraid to talk to their children about their own faith. Children are instinctively curious about their parents and will ask such questions as: Do you remember your first Communion and confirmation? How did you two meet? What did you think about each other on the first date? How did Dad propose? Why are we Catholic? Why did Dad join the Knights of Columbus?

Parents should tell how God has called them to marriage and raising a family, and moved them to participate in their parishes and communities. When parents have these kinds of conversations at home, they give their children an appreciation of life as a mystery, as a gift from God, who has a vocation for them and is calling them to something special in his plan.

While it is true that I was first attracted to the priesthood by priests who were my role models, my parents and many others fostered in me an appreciation of my life as important to the plan of God. Without this appreciation of my life as a vocation from God, my interest in the priesthood may not have developed into a lifelong commitment.

 

A Personal Fiat

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I have always been intrigued by the way the evangelist Luke tells the story of the Annunciation. When Mary is visited by the Angel Gabriel she is told that she is to be the virgin Mother of God. As overwhelming and impressive as that should have been, it was not sufficient to provoke Mary's acceptance, her fiat. Only after hearing that the impossible had already happened — that her elderly kinswoman, Elizabeth, was also with child — does Mary respond to the impossible in her life.

Following in the footsteps of priests and religious can be very appealing to young people in today's world. However, attracting candidates, as fascinating and impressive as that can be, is only the beginning. Promoting vocations must also be about conversion — about encouraging young people to think about their futures in much broader terms than the world allows. We are all responsible for making sure this happens.

The story of Mary and Elizabeth is a starting point. The best way our young people can experience an openness to a calling beyond what the world defines as possible is by telling them often and in very personal terms how God has done great things for us, even the impossible.

Bishop Blase J. Cupich of Rapid City, S.D., is a member of Bishop Harold J. Dimmerling Council 1489 in Rapid City. He is chairman-elect of the U.S. bishops' Committee on Vocations.

 

62 posted on 05/03/2004 9:37:19 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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Thank you brother TonyRo76.

I also want to say to everyone especially Roy Tucker I am very sorry for over reacting (#40)to his comment. I don't want to offend any good Catholics. I'm just kind of ignorant in all the different meanings of things. Sorry everyone.
64 posted on 05/05/2004 7:10:21 PM PDT by ColoradoSlim (Shoot first, ask questions later.)
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NH parishes are being combined at a fast pace because of a priest shortage and because offerings are off too. I think that the Diocese is short about 25 priests out of a total of about 115. There are a lot of reasons for this. Many of the recent priests (last 25 years) came out of St. Johns in Boston. That is the center of the homosexual and pedophile abuse problem in this area. Another big reason as you pray for vocations is that many families of French-Canadian extraction in NH aspired to have a son and a daughter accept a religious vocation and life. Those were the days when such families had seven or nine children however and a child or two taken outside of the family life was not such an emotional burden and was considered a grace. Such families hardly exist now.

It is time for the church to consider salaried, married priests. I live in a small town with only a Methodist church of 200 families. We sing in the holiday performances because our Catholic church of 2200 families (another town) has none. I must say, the minister of the local church is salaried, married, and very spiritual. He is available seven days a week as well as his wife. A very good model, I think.

Since we had to drive at least five miles to go to mass and had a choice of churches we would often check out the priests schedules on the web site of the Diocese to select the priest that we considered to not be a homosexual. I think many did this because this particular priest filled the church where the others had many fewer in attendance. The diocese has discontinued the practiced of posting the schedules of the traveling priests I think for just such a reason. I could go on and on but it is so disheartening that it is indeed troubling.
67 posted on 05/06/2004 6:04:44 AM PDT by Final Authority
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Thank you for saying so. You mentioned you are a Lutheran, it just so happens that my wife, who is a very talented glass artist, just finished a large glass commission for a new church in Valencia, CA. It is a 7" diameter globe, a somewhat abstract representation, that is mounted on the wall behind the Christ figure. The folks from the church were wonderful to work with! We didn't do the installation but hope to see it in person some day. I know your day will be blessed too. Isn't life great when you know Christ is looking after you!
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I think what I wrote is at least partially true and also the Diocese is under a continued protest by groups of Church members to get the Bishop and his auxiliary to resign so the Diocese will not divulge the mass schedule of the Bishop either. It is intolerable right now.
70 posted on 05/06/2004 6:33:27 AM PDT by Final Authority
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